Thanks Alfa, that's good to know. It might be a good idea for the Planetside team to use the positioning (via X, Z co-ordinates) function of a Camera, and with it create a simpler terrain reference point function (something like a flag in Mojoworld). Having this simple Reference Point function one (that's a Royal one) can use that as the focal point of a Distance, Distribution, or other shader. Then we won't have to leave cameras strewn all over our terrain for people to trip over. I've got this horrible feeling that someone's gonna tell me this function already exists in one way or another.