underwater scenes ?

[jcinbama]

has anyone try an underwater scene with the new build or will it still not work?

[Mohawk20]

One of Matt's posts said underwater scenes might not work well...

(Or I could have mis understood because the exact phrase was "...except for underwater..." if I remember correctly.)

[jcinbama]

Okay, thanks Mohawk20

[rcallicotte]

Since the lake shader / object is just a plane, how would you do anything "under" water?

[dandelO]

Import a cube or create a sphere, scale it large, use the water shader on it and then just go inside, an easy way to test it.

[PG]

The sphere object won't work, you'll have to create a sphere in 3ds max that is solid rather than a shell and import that. I'll give it a go now.

**Edit:
OK I created a box in 3ds Max, added a Normal modifier to it and clicked unify normals. I think you'll need to use the trick that Cypher came up with for the glass with the water shader to extend the transparency. Also I think that you could flip the lake object so you wouldn't have to go through 3ds Max every time.

Cypher's topic: http://forums.planetside.co.uk/index.php?topic=3977.0;

The render is very slow if using the box from 3ds Max, and doesn't give great results, you need to somehow use a volume modifier on the object but I could only find vol. select.

[Mohawk20]

You would think that even if it's a plane, it could have reflections at the underside, and change light colour below it.
But it doesn't.

I tried to render with the camera below the water surface, but apart from a memory error halfway (because I was running two TG renders at the same time), it just rendered as if the water shader wasn't there ar all.

[jo]

Hi,

Matt would have to clarify this, but I believe at this time the water shader is one way from "above" the water.

Regards,

Jo

[nikita]

From above:

From below:

(dark surface layer marks under water parts)

[Mohawk20]

Exactly nikita! The same result I had...

[Dune]

What if you make another world with a lake, hang it right above the usual globe. Find yourself a nice spot between the two worlds (under the otherworldly waterplane). Then uncheck rendering the second world itself (if that's possible, otherwise make the water very deep, and very transparant). Just a quick thought... I used this two world method to make a cave, which kind of worked.

---Dune

[Volker Harun]

As soon as you turn the plane upside down, you have the water above you. Or you can use the internal TG-Sphere with a negative diameter, this will turn the outside in.

[Jack]

im working on an underwater scene but it aint really underwater just a reall dense atmo

[Mr_Lamppost]

I wasn't actively working on an under water scene until you asked; I did have the concept on the back burner and had done some of the in theory problem solving.  This is a low quality first iteration, I am working away from home on my Pants-O-Matic single core Celeron laptop so don't hold your breath.  Actually Do hold your breath because even though there is a ways to go with this you are underwater.  I'll do a guide to how it's done when I get back to some real computing power.

[Henry Blewer]

This is not too bad. If there were objects, lens distortion of some kind could help.