Some regrets !

Started by Phylloxera, June 10, 2009, 01:53:47 PM

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Phylloxera

I note that everyone wants to take part in Contest of NWDA and I find that particularly interesting, I nevertheless regret small it is that you post your images and you ask for the opinions of the others by essyant each time to make a improvement.
I regret the operation adopted on ChristianFly for example where each one sent its image (which it could improve with its own way!) but that all the other participants did not have average to visualize and obviously that nobody posted elsewhere than on the site concerned (images being visible that with the fence of the contest)
What misses for this context it is ANONYMITY!

cyphyr

lol I think (I hope) your online translator is kaput  ;D
I'm not taking part in the NWDA contest :) mainly because I dont work that way.
I potter allong trying to work stuff out, occasionally gert inspired and even less occasionally get around to finnishing an image (I might be on to something now lol). I get a lot of ideas for inprovement not only on images I have posted but also on comments about other peoples work. One of the things I like about this forum is our ability to criticise and improve on eachothers work. Rarely do people get offended and although the advice is not always taken (we all have our own artistic sensibilities) it is always welcome.
I dont know what happened to ChristianFly so I cant comment on that.
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Seth

je comprends Phyllo, mais le but du contest n'est pas de voir juste ce que les gens peuvent faire sur un thème donné, mais bien d'avoir les images les plus réalistes possibles.
pour ce qui est de l'anonymat, on s'en balance, vu que c'est le render qui va être examiné, pas la personne.
En clair, même si c'est un sombre connard qui fait la plus belle image, il gagne et puis c'est tout.
enfin, faut aussi se dire qu'il y a des gens qui meme si il ne marque pas leur nom sur le render, ou si il ne le post nul part ailleurs, on sait que le render est leur création... par le style par exemple.
Sur ChristianFly, la competition etait entre gens qui se connaissent bien, qui deconnent bien ensemble et qui se lance un défi sur un sujet fixé pour voir qui sortira le plus beau render sur ce theme, sans voir ce que les autres preparent... ce n'est pas l'idée que l'on a eu... nous, on veux juste voir les rendus les plus realistes possibles... et si il faut que les gens s'entraident pour ça, et bien tant mieux ! qu'ils s'entraident ! j'ai cru comprendre que certains s'inquietaient du peut-etre changement de mentalité sur TG2 et bien l'entraide est la seule chose efficace, à mon avis pour evoluer et permettre aux gens d'ameliorer leur renders avec des conseils exterieurs est à mon avis une tres bonne chose.
faire des trucs dans son coin, pour essayer de faire mieux que le voisin qui fait un truc dans son coin, c'est rigolo, mais ça ne fait pas avancer le schmilblick ;)

cyphyr

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En Anglais s'il vous plaît.
richard
sorry for the terrible translation  ::)
ok I got it now :)
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Seth


I'll try to write it in English ^^

I undertsand you Phyllo but the goal of the contest is not to see what people can do on a given theme but have the most realistic renders.
As for the anonimity, we don't care because we are not judging the people but the images.
To be clearer, even if a deep asshole makes the best image, he wins !
and to be honest, even if people don't sign their renders or post them on the forum, some of them can be recognize... by their style.
On ChristianFly, the contest was between people knowing each others well, having good fun with each others,defying themselves on a given subject to see which one of them will do the best render on this theme... this is not our idea... we just want to see the most realistic renders possible. and if they need to help each others to get the best render, so be it ! I understood that some people were afraid of TG2 community changing its mentality so i think helping each others is the best way to evoluate, and allowing other's advices to improve their renders is ,imho a very good thing.
doing stuff secretly, to try to do better that the neighboor doing stuff secretly too, is fun, but i don't think it makes things improving.

sorry for the very approximative translation guys.
I am speaking for myself only, and I don't include my fellow partners in my writing (can't speak for others) ^^

MacGyver

Apart from enjoying your discussion and seeing that I haven't forgotten my french completely, is this the correct place for a non-image thread? :P
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Seth

hehe lol ! no it isn't but I answered where it was written :p

dandelO

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QuoteTo be clearer, even if a deep asshole makes the best image, he wins !

This is one of the the funniest things I've read this year! :D :D :D

Just as good as this one, from PG on Vue... http://forums.planetside.co.uk/index.php?topic=4651.msg63529#msg63529

:D :D :D

dandelO

Oh, Jesus! It doesn't stop. I'm split!

I translated your actual line in French, Seth... 'En clair, même si c'est un sombre connard qui fait la plus belle image, il gagne et puis c'est tout.'

Here's my results, it's even worse. - 'Clearly, even if it is a dark asshole who made the most beautiful image, he won and that is all.'

I'm sorry for hijacking your thread like this, Joel, but I'm in pieces here! I think I've wet myself...

buzzzzz1

Quote from: Seth on June 10, 2009, 03:00:20 PM

I'll try to write it in English ^^

I undertsand you Phyllo but the goal of the contest is not to see what people can do on a given theme but have the most realistic renders.
As for the anonimity, we don't care because we are not judging the people but the images.
To be clearer, even if a deep asshole makes the best image, he wins !
and to be honest, even if people don't sign their renders or post them on the forum, some of them can be recognize... by their style.
On ChristianFly, the contest was between people knowing each others well, having good fun with each others,defying themselves on a given subject to see which one of them will do the best render on this theme... this is not our idea... we just want to see the most realistic renders possible. and if they need to help each others to get the best render, so be it ! I understood that some people were afraid of TG2 community changing its mentality so i think helping each others is the best way to evoluate, and allowing other's advices to improve their renders is ,imho a very good thing.
doing stuff secretly, to try to do better that the neighboor doing stuff secretly too, is fun, but i don't think it makes things improving.

sorry for the very approximative translation guys.
I am speaking for myself only, and I don't include my fellow partners in my writing (can't speak for others) ^^

OH GOOD! Then that means I have a chance then.   :D
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FrankB

There are enough other, monthly, theme based, "pure" TG contest that are anonymous and deeply democratic.
This one is just different in every aspect. And I say better (like in "more fun").

Regrds,
Frank

PS: Franck, you delivered a typical "Seth" again! So funny ;D


Seth


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I am really enjoying the contest. It has really made the forum 'buzz'.
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Phylloxera

Quote from: Seth on June 10, 2009, 02:17:57 PM
je comprends Phyllo, mais le but du contest n'est pas de voir juste ce que les gens peuvent faire sur un thème donné, mais bien d'avoir les images les plus réalistes possibles.
pour ce qui est de l'anonymat, on s'en balance, vu que c'est le render qui va être examiné, pas la personne.
En clair, même si c'est un sombre connard qui fait la plus belle image, il gagne et puis c'est tout.
enfin, faut aussi se dire qu'il y a des gens qui meme si il ne marque pas leur nom sur le render, ou si il ne le post nul part ailleurs, on sait que le render est leur création... par le style par exemple.
Sur ChristianFly, la competition etait entre gens qui se connaissent bien, qui deconnent bien ensemble et qui se lance un défi sur un sujet fixé pour voir qui sortira le plus beau render sur ce theme, sans voir ce que les autres preparent... ce n'est pas l'idée que l'on a eu... nous, on veux juste voir les rendus les plus realistes possibles... et si il faut que les gens s'entraident pour ça, et bien tant mieux ! qu'ils s'entraident ! j'ai cru comprendre que certains s'inquietaient du peut-etre changement de mentalité sur TG2 et bien l'entraide est la seule chose efficace, à mon avis pour evoluer et permettre aux gens d'ameliorer leur renders avec des conseils exterieurs est à mon avis une tres bonne chose.
faire des trucs dans son coin, pour essayer de faire mieux que le voisin qui fait un truc dans son coin, c'est rigolo, mais ça ne fait pas avancer le schmilblick ;)
Complètement d'accord avec toi c'était juste histoire de lancer un post qui fait réagir, sachant que je suis en manque d'inspiration !
Completely of agreement with you it was right history of launching a post which makes react, knowing that I am in lack of inspiration!