Quote from: neuspadrin on April 27, 2010, 08:59:59 PMSteve jobs != apple. Apple is the company, and yes they almost died in the 90s because they took bad turns and ditched one guy who made them semi profitable. And steve jobs still != apple. I disagree with how people seem to worship him when its so easy to see how much elitist crap mac seems to spew out at times.
I never say Mr. Steve Jobs = Apple Corp.
But without Steve Jobs, Apple Corp would be like ... er ... Symantec (the maker of Norton Utilities).
See how Symantec has performed without Mr. Norton?
No, Mr. Norton ain't Symantec either, but they (Mr. Norton and Mr. Jobs) are like the
SOUL of the company. Without them, the company withers.
Quote from: neuspadrin on April 27, 2010, 08:59:59 PMAnd yes microsoft has had its bad times (windows ME), but you also have to look at why microsoft grew to be HUGE and used everywhere and why mac's are still niche.
LOL !
Ever wonder why Apple keeps on doing so well despite in the niche market?
Or perhaps ... it's by design?
Why conquer the whole world (like what Microsoft did) and put out craps and garbages (WinME isn't the only crap btw) while you can home in a niche with products that are designed to work the way they should?
Quote from: neuspadrin on April 27, 2010, 08:59:59 PMQuote from: penang on April 27, 2010, 08:22:19 PMQuote from: neuspadrin on April 27, 2010, 04:32:42 PMa lot of things osx did was taken from linux in the first place.
Close, but no cigar. 
OSX is based on bsd. Another variant of *nixes, not Linux.
I know that, but what I'm saying is some ui development they took in recently for osx is from the beryl/compiz project that were happening on linux.
Sorry for the mis-communication.
Now that you put it that way, I agree.
And compiz ain't the only gem Apple has picked. They have used quite a number of stuffs from KDE / Gnome as well.
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Just wanna add this - not from me --->
http://www.v3.co.uk/vnunet/news/2244089/top-ten-biggest-egos-technology?page=6Scroll down and look at who is #1.
"If there was any debate over who would be at the top of this week's list, it was over in about five seconds. How do you not recognise an ego so powerful it can distort reality?
Jobs is very good at what he does, and he most certainly knows it. While the engineers and developers get their due, you know that virtually every release from Apple, be it a new iPod or a TV ad, has Steve Jobs's fingerprints all over it.
To have this level of control over a company needs a supreme confidence in your own abilities. Those who have worked with Jobs will attest to his ability to slam anything he doesn't believe in and tirelessly sell his own ideas to others. Reporters who spoke with Jobs back in the 1980s when he still gave interviews say that he was constantly asking what was being said about him, both good and bad.
Perhaps the greatest contradiction about Jobs is just how fiercely he guards his private life. While fellow business icons Richard Branson, Larry Ellison and Mark Cuban make their leisure pursuits public business, the rest of the world would be very hard pressed to know just what Jobs does when he leaves the office.
No other person in the business is as visible within his company - and as invisible outside it - as Steve Jobs."
