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Title: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Walli on July 06, 2011, 05:25:15 pm
still WIP but close to finish. This time I wanted to do an outdoor render with Vray for Cinema4D.

(http://www.wallis-eck.de/bigger3/zaun/zaun27.jpg)



bigger version: click (http://www.wallis-eck.de/bigger3/zaun/zaun27_big.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Henry Blewer on July 07, 2011, 03:15:58 am
Very nice DOF work. The fence looks brand new. I would try putting a image/fractal mask on the sunlight for dappled shadows. Or place a tree for the shadows. This would break up the direct lighting which makes this look cg IMHO.

Edit: I guess you did that. Looked at the inset image on the threads page.
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Walli on July 07, 2011, 01:02:22 pm
yes, there´s already shadow falling in there,, but because of the low sun angle, the atmosphere/sun lighting ratio almost tends towards atmosphere, so the shadow is not very obvious.

(http://www.wallis-eck.de/bigger3/zaun/zaun31.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Henry Blewer on July 07, 2011, 01:14:09 pm
I like the newest render better. It just gave me a flashback to my Grandparents garden in West Bloomfield, NY.
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: inkydigit on July 08, 2011, 04:46:21 pm
no. 2 gets my vote here...very cool work!
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Walli on July 11, 2011, 05:53:59 pm
thanks.

Some updates and closeup renderings (better, cropped out of a large render)

(http://www.wallis-eck.de/bigger3/zaun/zaun44a.jpg)

(http://www.wallis-eck.de/bigger3/zaun/zaun44b.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Walli on July 13, 2011, 05:38:41 pm
a boy will be in the garden..

(http://www.wallis-eck.de/bigger3/zaun/zaun_kid09.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: rcallicotte on July 15, 2011, 09:01:54 am
Can't wait to see more.  The #2 image is muted too much for the garden stuff, but it looks like your follow ups are more resilient.  The fence looks pretty good.
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Walli on July 15, 2011, 02:58:29 pm
thanks!

(http://www.wallis-eck.de/bigger3/zaun/zaun_kid19.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Walli on July 15, 2011, 07:09:00 pm
(http://www.wallis-eck.de/bigger3/zaun/zaun_kid24.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Henry Blewer on July 15, 2011, 08:34:37 pm
Very good model. Only a couple tweaks and you're done.
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Walli on August 22, 2011, 05:51:28 pm
after a long pause I managed to work on the last plant I need for the scene. Not yet finished, but getting closer ;-)

(http://www.wallis-eck.de/bigger3/zaun/zaun_rubus4.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: FrankB on August 23, 2011, 02:44:58 am
Very cool Walli, congrats for the whole scene! :)
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Walli on August 23, 2011, 05:42:12 pm
thanks!
Someone wanted to know how detailed this shrub is, so I went a bit closer (rendered with vray for Cinema, as the complete scene also will be rendered with vray for Cinema)

Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Oshyan on August 23, 2011, 06:04:45 pm
Holy good gravy! Where do we get such wonders?

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Kadri on August 23, 2011, 06:06:59 pm

Looks very good!
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Tangled-Universe on August 24, 2011, 02:13:54 am
That looks simply awesome JW! ;D

Cheers,
Martin
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Walli on August 24, 2011, 02:48:17 am
thanks. I will try to port tha shrub to TG too. Unfortunatly at this stage you have to decide between raytracing and displacement, looking forward when that works nicely together.
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Seth on August 24, 2011, 05:53:28 am
nice blackberries, me say
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: j meyer on August 24, 2011, 10:42:31 am
Stunning close up! 8)
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: inkydigit on August 24, 2011, 12:02:52 pm
damn fine juicy little berries...this is going to be super awesome!!
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Walli on October 28, 2011, 03:09:17 am
this is a side project of the scene, so even if not directly related I put it in this thread ;-)

(http://www.wallis-eck.de/wip/wildflowersB21.jpg)

(http://www.wallis-eck.de/wip/wildflowersB25.jpg)

(http://www.wallis-eck.de/wip/wildflowersB30.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Kadri on October 28, 2011, 05:46:21 am

I like the second and especially the last one , Walli.
The DOF in the second image could use some work .
But i liked the last one. How did you made the DOF ?
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Tangled-Universe on October 28, 2011, 06:29:03 am
Love the floating seeds in the last one and very nice painterly bokeh!

Great plants Walli, love'em!

Cheers,
Martin
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Walli on October 28, 2011, 08:11:55 am
its 3D DOF (like the other renders it is done inside Cinema4D/Vray). This weekend I will render the final version and then I will increase the quality settings, so I hope the noise should be gone then.
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Kadri on October 28, 2011, 08:13:15 am

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: inkydigit on October 28, 2011, 08:23:44 am
these are great...do you have any plans to replicate these in TG?
it'd be interesting to see...
I love the light, especially in these!
cheers
J
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Walli on October 28, 2011, 09:17:10 am
almost all of the "hero" plants in this scene have been available in TG for a long time. And the other stuff will probably show up on NWDA also. In case not, they are available on other stores also, but I won´t link from here  ;)

Or did you mean replicate this scene in TG? That might happen, especially with latest alpha.
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Tangled-Universe on October 28, 2011, 10:14:52 am
What were the rendertimes of these last 3 images, roughly?
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: inkydigit on October 28, 2011, 10:16:45 am
Quote from: Walli on October 28, 2011, 09:17:10 am
almost all of the "hero" plants in this scene have been available in TG for a long time. And the other stuff will probably show up on NWDA also. In case not, they are available on other stores also, but I won´t link from here  ;)

Or did you mean replicate this scene in TG? That might happen, especially with latest alpha.


cheers, yes, the latter....
:)
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: j meyer on October 28, 2011, 11:04:03 am
Nice plants and renders.
Especially the "Pusteblume" is impressive.
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Walli on October 28, 2011, 06:24:14 pm
thanks. I have done some final changes on that pov and now will hunt for some other viewpoints ;-)
(http://www.wallis-eck.de/wip/wildflowers_dandelionzoom04.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Walli on October 28, 2011, 06:26:50 pm
rendertimes - I only now from the last one, it was a bit more then four hours (2560*1440) - but I am pretty sure that one could optimize that.
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Tangled-Universe on October 28, 2011, 06:40:08 pm
Well, 4 hours, pretty much worth it if it was up to me!

The de-straightened ;) stem is an improvement, saw that suggestion on CGS.
That bokeh still looks great...damn :)
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Walli on October 28, 2011, 06:48:31 pm
vray is pretty nice when it comes to speed/quality ratio. I like it a lot, also because it is nicely integrated into Cinema4D and feels almost like an internal renderer.
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Oshyan on October 29, 2011, 11:07:11 pm
I like where this scene arrived at, really nice results. Especially the way DoF is handled. Interesting to see the render time is pretty high though. I wonder what it would take to do this in TG. I guess the lighting might not be quite as good, but render time would not be so far off I think. Any plans to try?

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Walli on November 03, 2011, 05:14:37 am
yes, I plan a similar TG scene too, but I guess I need more time ;-)
For now some more renders from that scene:
Don´t bug me:
(http://www.wallis-eck.de/bigger3/wildflowers_view3_bug.jpg)

Low flying birds view:
(http://www.wallis-eck.de/bigger3/wildflowers_view3_04.jpg)

Surrounding:
(http://www.wallis-eck.de/bigger3/wildflowers_view4_01.jpg)

Bigger resolution of final: http://www.wallis-eck.de/bigger3/wildflowers_dandelion_2560-1440.jpg
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: dandelO on November 03, 2011, 08:01:13 am
Beautiful, Walli! :)
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Seth on November 03, 2011, 08:08:06 am
real beauty
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Tangled-Universe on November 03, 2011, 10:03:12 am
Love these works Walli, really nice :)
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Dune on November 03, 2011, 12:19:19 pm
Unbelievable!
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: bla bla 2 on November 03, 2011, 12:35:27 pm
perfect.
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Kadri on November 03, 2011, 01:49:16 pm

Very nice  :)
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: mhall on November 03, 2011, 04:39:08 pm
Wow, these are really beautiful! Nice job Walli.
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Henry Blewer on November 04, 2011, 10:44:46 am
I like the one which looks up at the tree. Is that your 'noble one'?
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Walli on November 04, 2011, 06:08:17 pm
yes, the noble one, just changed the color of the leaves.
Title: Re: Another Non-TG Nature render thingy
Post by: Walli on November 10, 2011, 04:20:48 am
by the way - please skip if you don´t like commercials - I usually try to avoid that, but I wanted to let you know that all of those plants are available in the meantime.
Some already have been (and some more will be) at nwda and all of them are available at my own webshop www.silva3d.com - end of ommercial -