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Title: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: WASasquatch on August 15, 2018, 06:15:25 PM
How do these brass shaders look?

From top left: Polished Brass, Matt Brass, Oxidized & Tarnish/Grime Polished Brass, Heavily Tarnished Brass, Heavily Tarnished & Oxidized Brass.

I feel the heavily tarnished could use some more specular, and darker "smudges". Not sure.
Title: Re: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: luvsmuzik on August 15, 2018, 09:20:12 PM
Those are great WAS, but check out Hannes' library too. I am sure yours are unique and done in your own special way, but already have a few similar in the brasses. :)  I am sure you are making your own library as you go, as I am adding folders and subfolders of your clips.....you know a ready on the spot source for stuff. Really appreciate all the work you are sharing! :)
Title: Re: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: WASasquatch on August 15, 2018, 09:24:41 PM
Those are great WAS, but check out Hannes' library too. I am sure yours are unique and done in your own special way, but already have a few similar in the brasses. :)  I am sure you are making your own library as you go, as I am adding folders and subfolders of your clips.....you know a ready on the spot source for stuff. Really appreciate all the work you are sharing! :)

I am indeed making my own library. Some of Hanne's work is great. For example I struggled with gold until I took a look at hanes chromatic reflection settings. I am just really OCD, which makes using anyone's resources hard for me. I'm immediately needing to change everything, to the point I might as well do it myself. Which I've started to do. In fact, when people put out certain new ideas I'll make it a challenge to do it myself based on how I think it's working. Or of I'm stumped, ask for a node shot. :P

Would love some C&C on these as working on all the types and between images, ideas get muddled I feel due to single tones and lots of staring.

The polished oxidized brass was based on old Chinese brass-age stuff.
Title: Re: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: luvsmuzik on August 15, 2018, 09:41:07 PM
I just thought it was neat the the forum finally added a topic heading in File Sharing for Materials so there was a more narrow starting place for dummies like me and newbies to see examples and clips or file shares to download.
Some of us know the colors, finish, and texture we want, but often a search for "glass shader" gave you either 200 results or none.
I was often called "the organizer" so I know what you mean about OCD, but add in "scatterbrain". That's me. Very hard to interrupt the creativity on my end, I have to go back and organize it later. :) Carry on! :) :) :)
Title: Re: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: WASasquatch on August 16, 2018, 12:31:43 AM
I just thought it was neat the the forum finally added a topic heading in File Sharing for Materials so there was a more narrow starting place for dummies like me and newbies to see examples and clips or file shares to download.
Some of us know the colors, finish, and texture we want, but often a search for "glass shader" gave you either 200 results or none.
I was often called "the organizer" so I know what you mean about OCD, but add in "scatterbrain". That's me. Very hard to interrupt the creativity on my end, I have to go back and organize it later. :) Carry on! :) :) :)

I remember when I first started using Terragen 2 I used a lot of clips to work off of cause when I did things myself I just had no idea about colour contrasts, softness, and all that, and just made really hard contrasting colours and it just looked off. I've since at least got the hang of it. Ironically it's a lot like the colour detailing and stuff I'd make out of photoshops cloud noise and difference layers.
Title: Re: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: bobbystahr on August 16, 2018, 12:56:38 AM
How do these brass shaders look?

From top left: Polished Brass, Matt Brass, Oxidized & Tarnish/Grime Polished Brass, Heavily Tarnished Brass, Heavily Tarnished & Oxidized Brass.

I feel the heavily tarnished could use some more specular, and darker "smudges". Not sure.

Weelll I'd debate the polished brass being polished enough but I was an honour guard air cadet and you could shave in our boots and brass heh heh, but the other 4 live up to their names.
Title: Re: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: WASasquatch on August 16, 2018, 03:26:44 AM
How do these brass shaders look?

From top left: Polished Brass, Matt Brass, Oxidized & Tarnish/Grime Polished Brass, Heavily Tarnished Brass, Heavily Tarnished & Oxidized Brass.

I feel the heavily tarnished could use some more specular, and darker "smudges". Not sure.

Weelll I'd debate the polished brass being polished enough but I was an honour guard air cadet and you could shave in our boots and brass heh heh, but the other 4 live up to their names.

See that's what I was actually thinking too. It looked a little dull no? If you were to polish that and show it to your instructor, would he not ask for more buffing? lol
Title: Re: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: WASasquatch on August 16, 2018, 04:09:55 AM
How does this look Bobby? I altered the colour slightly to be a tad brassier, as with the upped chrome it was hard to distinguish from gold imo. Though maybe I'm wrong. I've seen brass in gold as well as coppery brass.

Edit: For contrast, here is Hanne's gold added to the same shader ball. Definitely different. Which is good. Was looking a lot like just gold. His displacement doesn't seem to look good at these quality settings and scale but nevermind that.
Title: Re: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: Hannes on August 16, 2018, 05:46:16 AM
Cool stuff! I especially like the rusty worn brass materials.
But I agree, it might be good to put your materials to the (sticky) Materials thread in the file sharing section, so that they're easier to find.
Title: Re: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: N-drju on August 16, 2018, 06:49:46 AM
You are doing wonderful job with these. It's almost like looking on the DAZ Studio material ball - and that is a compliment, because there are tons of them.
Title: Re: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: WASasquatch on August 16, 2018, 07:34:30 AM
Cool stuff! I especially like the rusty worn brass materials.
But I agree, it might be good to put your materials to the (sticky) Materials thread in the file sharing section, so that they're easier to find.

Was actually keeping them easier to find for myself by having them in my posted threads page in my profile that I use to refer to my other past shares (my memory is beginning to fial due to a neurological disease as well as other crap with my brain so I've been havin to create systems). I have my own texture/material gallery that keeps things separate to my own stuff. Some materials can have a whole page of responses which actually make it harder to go through the thread to find stuff, which is why I started a new one for my own. I actually wish I could lock it to only my posts xD
Title: Re: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: archonforest on August 16, 2018, 10:07:20 AM
Wow very nice shaders! The rust one looks very real.
Title: Re: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: the first seer on August 16, 2018, 01:52:06 PM
New materials for my crazy works, always here I am looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: DocCharly65 on August 17, 2018, 05:58:24 AM
Cool!
That will be a great addition to any texture library.
Title: Re: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: bobbystahr on August 18, 2018, 12:11:15 PM
How does this look Bobby? I altered the colour slightly to be a tad brassier, as with the upped chrome it was hard to distinguish from gold imo. Though maybe I'm wrong. I've seen brass in gold as well as coppery brass.

Edit: For contrast, here is Hanne's gold added to the same shader ball. Definitely different. Which is good. Was looking a lot like just gold. His displacement doesn't seem to look good at these quality settings and scale but nevermind that.

Nice edit, I'm convinced...well done.
Title: Re: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: WASasquatch on August 19, 2018, 05:18:26 PM
Think I'm almost done with these. Haven't had much time to work on stuff lately. Lots of stress going on.

Any suggestions or additional shader ideas?

Left to Right: Polished Brass, Matt Brass, Classic Corroded Brass, Polished Oxidized/Corroded Brass, Tarnished Brass, Matt Tarnished/Corroded Brass

Introducing the original bottom left material again, cause I like that as an ancient brass like material. Doing a render now. *Uploaded* Final position is on these so textures got shifted on a bottom row that was moved.

Available for download now: https://planetside.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,24690.msg253619.html#msg253619
Title: Re: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: the first seer on August 21, 2018, 08:53:26 AM
Is great my friend, I will test if I have time :)
There is a lot to do in the garden, we can hardly do anything on the PC.
Is there also porcelain or wood as material?
Title: Re: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: WASasquatch on August 21, 2018, 07:55:12 PM
Is great my friend, I will test if I have time :)
There is a lot to do in the garden, we can hardly do anything on the PC.
Is there also porcelain or wood as material?

Actually have a porcelain/ceramic I was working on with the volumetrics. I'll do some more work on it. Haven't tried wood grain yet though seems doable (in my head). Thanks for the idea. :)

I hope the gardening goes well, I really miss all my plants and garden.
Title: Re: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: the first seer on August 22, 2018, 05:05:41 PM
We now had a long heat wave in Bavaria, I could not remember that it was ever so hot.
Tomorrow the weather changes and there are bad weather, so I try to do a lot in the garden.

What's up with your garden my friend!
Title: Re: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: WASasquatch on August 22, 2018, 05:51:58 PM
We now had a long heat wave in Bavaria, I could not remember that it was ever so hot.
Tomorrow the weather changes and there are bad weather, so I try to do a lot in the garden.

What's up with your garden my friend!

I unfortunately have gone through health problems and can't work like I used to, and while this was all happening our landlord decided to end our lease on us, which was highly unfortunate because we had rent at 845 USD a month, which was affordable. But while we lived there Washin gton states realty inflated over 100%. And simple 1 bedroom apartments went form 600 to 1400+ USD. A 2 bedroom like what we had for 845 were going for 1800+ (one we saw was almost 2,500 cause of area and amenities I guess). House (physical house not apartment) went up from a usual 1300 for a 3-4 bedroom to almost 3000.  All while everyone makes the same ages. It's just insanity. They just now raised minimum wage this year, which really has barely helped as per-usual all the complaining businesses just gamble with peoples work hours to get by full-time pay.
Title: Re: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: the first seer on August 22, 2018, 07:24:16 PM
That's awesome, that's usurious prices my friend.
I can understand that well, because I can not work for some time because of premature dementia. We now have to sue the pension in court but the bills for the house come every month.
I wish you strength and all the best!
Money does not necessarily make you happier, but life is a lot easier :)
Title: Re: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: WASasquatch on August 22, 2018, 08:07:25 PM
That's awesome, that's usurious prices my friend.
I can understand that well, because I can not work for some time because of premature dementia. We now have to sue the pension in court but the bills for the house come every month.
I wish you strength and all the best!
Money does not necessarily make you happier, but life is a lot easier :)

I wish you all the best too. And no money most certainly doesn't, but it does help with unfortunately with necessities.
Title: Re: Brass Shaders - How do these look?
Post by: DocCharly65 on August 24, 2018, 07:33:44 AM
I like the last 4 most! Cool surfaces!