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Started by archonforest, May 22, 2014, 02:19:48 PM

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archonforest

Does someone knows which one gives better final render quality?:
TIFF 8 bit
TIFF 16 bit
BMP
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yossam


archonforest

Sorry, I was thinking in TG output.
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yossam

You can save in TG to EXR.  :)

jo

Hi,

OpenEXR is the "best" format if you want a high dynamic range image with greater colour information for further processing. 16 bit TIFF also has a higher dynamic range, and would be a good choice if you don't have applications which can work with OpenEXR. There is not much to choose between for the 8 bit formats, such as 8 bit TIFF and BMP, it's just down to your personal preference.

Regards,

Jo

archonforest

Thx guys for the answers.
Appreciated ;)
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Oshyan

TIFF and BMP have the same actual quality, but TIFF is a far better format because it supports compression and is more widely supported by other applications. BMP is a pretty dead format at this point, and for good reason.

- Oshyan

AP

Why is BMP dead? Just curious because everything I save is in BMP.

bobbystahr

Quote from: ChrisC on May 24, 2014, 10:37:11 PM
Why is BMP dead? Just curious because everything I save is in BMP.

Yeah, why is that?
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Oshyan

It's just an older and not as well supported format compared to several others. In particular it is a Windows-centric format as it was developed by Microsoft back in the 80s and, unlike TIFF - which is a similarly old format - BMP remained largely Windows-specific. It is also comparatively more limited than TIFF (and other formats). It doesn't support embedded alpha channels or more than 8 bits per channel, for example, while TIFF supports both of these things and much more. TIFF is much more widely supported than BMP, particularly on non-Windows platforms. Basically, although BMP is "OK", there's just no good reason to use it anymore, it offers no real advantages over other formats and so has not remained very popular.

- Oshyan

bobbystahr

Quote from: Oshyan on May 25, 2014, 07:09:13 PM
It's just an older and not as well supported format compared to several others. In particular it is a Windows-centric format as it was developed by Microsoft back in the 80s and, unlike TIFF - which is a similarly old format - BMP remained largely Windows-specific. It is also comparatively more limited than TIFF (and other formats). It doesn't support embedded alpha channels or more than 8 bits per channel, for example, while TIFF supports both of these things and much more. TIFF is much more widely supported than BMP, particularly on non-Windows platforms. Basically, although BMP is "OK", there's just no good reason to use it anymore, it offers no real advantages over other formats and so has not remained very popular.

- Oshyan

cool, I agree with the reasons for it's dis-use and thanks for explaining...hardly use it at all except in mt TG renders...maybe I'll default to .tif, like it better anyway...so...why is it the default output out of the box in TG?
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N-drju

Errr... What do you mean it is not well supported? I mean, you can open .bmp with literally ANYTHING! :D With Open EXR... can you...? ???

I don't agree that it is Windows-centric because I have no trouble opening it on Mac OS and in Mac OS version of Photoshop. Well?
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Quote from: N-drju on May 26, 2014, 01:59:44 AM
Errr... What do you mean it is not well supported? I mean, you can open .bmp with literally ANYTHING! :D With Open EXR... can you...? ???

I don't agree that it is Windows-centric because I have no trouble opening it on Mac OS and in Mac OS version of Photoshop. Well?


It was created by M$ as a system font originally for use with their O/S back when macs wouldn't open true type hence it system specific appelation.

" I mean, you can open .bmp with literally ANYTHING!"

yup, but what do you SAVE in .bmp?
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archonforest

Quote from: bobbystahr on May 26, 2014, 09:33:08 AM
yup, but what do you SAVE in .bmp?

I used sometimes as an alternative. I did not want to use jpeg as that destroys the pix a bit. Instead of jpeg I used BMP and I got better quality...to some degree... :D
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bobbystahr

Quote from: archonforest on May 26, 2014, 09:50:06 AM
Quote from: bobbystahr on May 26, 2014, 09:33:08 AM
yup, but what do you SAVE in .bmp?

I used sometimes as an alternative. I did not want to use jpeg as that destroys the pix a bit. Instead of jpeg I used BMP and I got better quality...to some degree... :D

Along with Oshyan, I recommend .tif myself...overall a better choice.
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