House Hunting

bobbystahr · August 07, 2016, 11:06:30 PM

Found a funky old Victorian house the same day I got the 1960 Aston Martin Zagota( the version before the 1st James Bond Aston Martin)
so I wacked 'em together with a couple of house hunters..C&C always welcome.

DocCharly65 · August 08, 2016, 03:10:58 AM

Hey cool Bobby! It looks like the always deceitful peace in a horror movie

I like it

May I suggest some changes? Only a few

The Aston is a bit too glossy. I don't know if you could get it into a more metallic look or a matt surface?
The building would be worth to play with the ivy-generator
The gravel path could have some edge stones or something like that. Or perhaps a dense thin line of wildly placed stones with small bushes and higher grass patches?

Mr_Lamppost · August 15, 2016, 08:22:11 PM

That's definitely a creepy person's house. I like the way the house hunters are not aware they are being watched, adds to the creepiness. You could heighten this by adding a couple of bushes into the foreground, really close to the camera with DOF to blur them, just intruding into the image. Keep the view of the house clear but cover the empty lower left corner and allow a leaf or two to intrude over the Aston. Give the impression that the observer is viewing covertly from behind bushes across the road from the house.

The wood texture for the walls of the house doesn't tile, you can see the repeat boundaries maybe try replacing it. All of the textures on the house look very flat; have you set displacement?

I agree that the Aston is a bit too glossy. While I was typing my test render finished so I made a couple of alternative paint finishes:

Might not be exactly the same shade but here's a basic green gloss paint:
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And here's the metallic version:
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bobbystahr · August 15, 2016, 09:24:59 PM

Quote from: Mr_Lamppost on August 15, 2016, 08:22:11 PM
That's definitely a creepy person's house. I like the way the house hunters are not aware they are being watched, adds to the creepiness. You could heighten this by adding a couple of bushes into the foreground, really close to the camera with DOF to blur them, just intruding into the image. Keep the view of the house clear but cover the empty lower left corner and allow a leaf or two to intrude over the Aston. Give the impression that the observer is viewing covertly from behind bushes across the road from the house.

The wood texture for the walls of the house doesn't tile, you can see the repeat boundaries maybe try replacing it. All of the textures on the house look very flat; have you set displacement?

I agree that the Aston is a bit too glossy. While I was typing my test render finished so I made a couple of alternative paint finishes:

Might not be exactly the same shade but here's a basic green gloss paint:
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And here's the metallic version:
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Thanks MrLp. I actually used a clip from some car paints someone shared; can't for the life of me remember who though...was it you?
I appreciate any nicely labeled colour things as I'm colour blind and it saves on embarrassment...
Sadly after spending far too long on it this is as good as I can get the mapping in PoseRay and that's the only program I have that I can map in
Thanks for reading my mind on the storyline...I almost put a t rex in the bushes behind the house but resisted the urge...the house just says creepy don't it....the house came as a .3ds, from one of those free sites that we all use and had no readme so I could share it if you think you can fix the mapping

Mr_Lamppost · August 16, 2016, 08:04:32 PM

I think this is the car paint you have been using:
http://www.planetside.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,9952.msg103751.html#msg103751
Basically just coloured mirrors.

inkydigit shared some better ones:
http://www.planetside.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,9880.msg103145.html#msg103145
I've looked at the red one which to my eye is a little too reflective, maybe he spends a lot of time waxing and polishing his car, and he uses the same nodes as my first one albeit with different settings for the reflection shader.

I found that house in three places:

Version for Poser:
https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/victorian-house-for-poser-/88342

In .max format:
http://www.cadnav.com/3d-models/model-11049.html

In .3ds but paid registration required:
http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=1005

Renderosity is OK but the other two sites look distinctly dodgy. There was a site full of free models a few years ago I think it was Russian; Arch? something. A few people used it for a while but stopped when they started asking for a lot of registration information and it was always uncertain where they were getting the models from.

I don't think there is a problem with your mapping it looks more like the texture on the walls not being seamless. I made an old plank seamless texture ages ago and posted it on the Genetica forum:

http://www.spiralforums.biz/index.php?showtopic=9988&hl=planks

A bit darker than the one you have been using but might do.

bobbystahr · August 19, 2016, 01:44:44 AM

Mr_Lamppost... with a bit of research I found the model to be a crude rip of the one linked below...As I was just using as a backdrop and don't have max for the decent res model, or the $30.00 American I think I'll look deeper in my vault for a different house with an appropriate gloom about it...

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/architectural-exterior/house/victorian-house

Dune · August 19, 2016, 02:30:20 AM

There are some sites that offer some nice (and free or cheap) buildings. Check out this: http://tf3dm.com/3d-models/house and http://archive3d.net/?category=1055

bobbystahr · August 19, 2016, 10:47:59 PM

Quote from: Dune on August 19, 2016, 02:30:20 AM
There are some sites that offer some nice (and free or cheap) buildings. Check out this: http://tf3dm.com/3d-models/house and http://archive3d.net/?category=1055

tf3dm.com is where that house I was using came from. I'm currently trying out a lwo house I got from sharecg which is fitting nicely scale wise, just have to 'crud it up' some to fit the theme.

bobbystahr · August 20, 2016, 12:14:19 PM

Here's my latest iteration with a new house, a render error(too much AO)and a car colour I got from a picture online that I'm happy looks pretty good using one of Mr_Lamppost's .tgc files as a base and tweaked till I got this. It will look different when I take the AO way down next iteration when I fix the road edges.
This is the house by Kari Kosonen which I tweaked to my liking.
http://www.sharecg.com/v/32649/gallery/5/3D-Model/Blue-House

luvsmuzik · August 20, 2016, 05:57:29 PM

Great progress! The other house was good, but the side porch was kind of chopped up a bit. Lattice here, stone brick there....this one is doable.

Mr_Lamppost · August 22, 2016, 07:02:27 PM

That new house model looks a lot better. The car shader still looks a bit odd but we'd need to see it without the general lighting problem

bobbystahr · August 22, 2016, 07:35:05 PM

Quote from: Mr_Lamppost on August 22, 2016, 07:02:27 PM
That new house model looks a lot better. The car shader still looks a bit odd but we'd need to see it without the general lighting problem

Yeah, dunno how it got so dark...musta reseeded the clouds or sumpin. I regular light the paint looks way more 'right' by the way...thanks for the help.

DocCharly65 · August 23, 2016, 03:03:50 AM

At home my monitors have much darker settings but here in the office the house (and the lighting) looks ok.
What if you give the car an only matte look? I think that would fit best the overall picture in my opinion .

ajcgi · August 23, 2016, 07:27:38 AM

On the impossibly clever self-calibrating Eizo at work here... it's about a stop underxposed. This is set up for Rec709 colour though. Once I've switched it to Adobe RGB or sRGB, I'd say it's about half a stop under actually.
But aside from that, I really like this. It has potential. As an estate agent would say about the property too.