House on hill

Started by Dune, May 18, 2022, 12:50:27 PM

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WAS

#15
Modern glass is very standardized. It's so smooth you don't even get ripples in the reflections (mostly). Same perfect type of sheets of glass used in mirrors. Modern windows are also double pain which creactes a double reflection.

Here is a old (100 year old window by results) and a modern double pain.

New windows provide crisp reflections.

Also DOF doesn't really work through windows, they're Secondary rays, and because it effectively doubles distance from reflected object (ray travel) it's usually out of focal area and thus uneffected. Kinda like that photo contest controversy awhile back in France where a winning photo was of a scooter mirror perfectly reflecting a building while everything else was out of focus in DOF. Just not how DOF works and his image was found altered.

Hannes

At least it's possible to create double pane windows in TG. I put a black plane behind the glass to make the reflections more visible.
Sorry for being a bit off topic, Ulco! I had to try this. ;)

WAS

#17
Oh wow! That looks pretty much just like what's in the photo. Good to know that works. I should start making all my house/structure windows in double pane now.

Now I'm wondering how to simulate old windows for these old Irish beach houses I wanted to create (think the movie The Secret of Roan Inish)

Dune

No worries, Hannes. Interesting discussion. And good test! I wonder if you need two panes of glass with normals facing outward (opposite) or facing the same way. And in fact with double glazing you have 4 reflecting surfaces.
For old windows I always add a little bump, which really works well.

WAS

I like old style windows. All the different styles. Like the one I referenced above, you can tell the sheets were rolled out with big rollers.

Hannes

Quote from: Dune on May 20, 2022, 01:35:48 AMI wonder if you need two panes of glass with normals facing outward (opposite) or facing the same way.
In my test I created a simple plane and copied it a few centimeters next to the original one. So they have the same orientation.

masonspappy

Just saw this for the first time this evening. Really Nice!!

Dune

#22
I'm testing a double glassed window now with really double surfaces, normals facing both ways. But I don't think the four surfaces are reflected. But both are only 4mm thick, so it's probably hard to see. Adding cracks (and accompanying opacity mask) is interesting though.....

WAS

wow, that looks cool though! Really like that for some reason 

Dune

Yeah, you can make pretty arty stuff like this. The box was crap of course. Time for some more experimentation.....

Dune

Interesting possibilites.....

WAS

Wow that's really cool. That would be a cool effect dividing like modern times, and the same location in history. The rustic effect really adds to it.

Dune

This kind of thing is one of the themes in my (past) painting, a divide between present and past in the shape of a huge wall painting, so it's indeed interesting for me to develop this a bit more.

Hannes

Wow, this painting is incredibly good, Ulco!!!

Dune

Yeah, it's one of my favorites too, and, as a matter of fact, I got the sudden idea to emulate this in TG. So I'm building right now, while the sun is shining outside :P