southwest US WIP

[FrankB]

an update, before I go to bed.

Larger render, one new species and removed the dark groundcover mats.

Regards,
Frank

[FrankB]

PS: 2nd variant with slightly more contrast

[crazymanrb]

Dang!!!!!!! That looks fantastic!

[Oshyan]

These types of high detail images really suffer from JPG compression unfortunately, but it's a fantastic scene. I wonder if it wouldn't look better downsampled and still saved in JPG (more bytes-per-pixel ). Or perhaps a less compressed version on your web space?

- Oshyan

[Jack]

These types of high detail images really suffer from JPG compression unfortunately, but it's a fantastic scene. I wonder if it wouldn't look better downsampled and still saved in JPG (more bytes-per-pixel ). Or perhaps a less compressed version on your web space?

- Oshyan

um I usually work with tiffs to avoid the jpg banding thing

[Oshyan]

I just mean for posting here on the web. I'm sure Frank works with lossless file formats when he's actually editing his images.

- Oshyan

[FrankB]

yesterday, I was on a rather small notebook lcd and could not see any noise. However, now that I am viewing this on  a larger screen, I understand and agree to the observation. It's not atmospheric noise, though. These plant models have very frail twigs and narrow needles, and with the resolution rendered, they appear altogether like a noisy mass.

I've rendered a crop at 2400 width, and left the crop unaltered (no postwork). There you can see that the "noise" is slowly resolving, but not gone yet. Maybe at twice the size again, the image will have enough pixel space to actually display all the fine details in that area of the image.

Regards;
Frank

[inkydigit]

damn, thats a sharp render Frank!...need to watch your step!....stunning realism!

[MacGyver]

Excellent...summer color...
Except some NOISE in the upper left...

I've been off for some days but I wanted to second aymenk's opinion about the first picture. The plants in the brighter areas were quite pixelated. Hope you resolved your little discussion

[FrankB]

here's a crop from a "problematic" area from a 4800 x 2743 render.
At this resolution, you begin to see that the fine grained detail from e.g. these bushes is causing the noise in a smaller render.
I have the suspicion that it may be good in this case to actually reduce the AA and AA bloom, as this is beginning to "erase" some of the pixels of e.g. a small branch.

Cheers,
Frank

PS: isn't this sand really nice, how it generates that virtually infinite procedural detail?

[Henry Blewer]

The sand really looks right. It would be hard to render that plant without the noise. It's very detailed. Is there a model of the same plant which is more 'fudged'? I mean, with less detail, but modeled to look like the detail is there?

[aymenk2003]

may you have to change completely this tree ...

[Tangled-Universe]

I must say I'm really surprised that the sand holds up so well at this close.
Did you alter any scaling on the "grain"? If not, I might be able to get it even tighter than this

may you have to change completely this tree ...

I agree...it's almost un-renderable when it's not in close-up or nearby shot.

[littlecannon]

This is looking really nice. The lighting gives it a very hot/stylized look. I have to ask... are the dry plants available from Walli? Will they be released as a pack?
Cheers, Simon.

[FrankB]

the cacti and the green bushes are from the xfrog southwest gallery, but the dry grasses are from Walli indeed. These are available through Turbosquid at the moment.
But while you ask, we're working on a dry plants pack for NWDA. I have seen very promising pre-final versions of these. The pack focuses on dry bushes, which IMHO are not available at the desired quality at the moment. I think these bushes could become a must-have asset for anyone who like to create desert / canyon / dry scenery with TG2, or any other app that can work with the obj format.
Maybe we'll do something about dry grasses later if the demand would be there.

Cheers,
Frank