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rcallicotte

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So this is Disney World.  Can we live here?

TheBadger

I feel for him. And he's right, no one who steals their education should hope to make a living from the work it leads to. The cost of all intellectual labor has been driven into the ground. The socialists and communists say everything should be free, and that we should not work for the good of our own but for society. Yeah right, a society of thieves and would be tyrants. I say fuck society, to many people on this planet anyway, and most of them are communists or at least socialists. Mass producers of worthless junk, and meaningless culture. Pricks.

Man I hate Modernism.
It has been eaten.

Kadri

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There is another side you forget TheBadger. He says  "We have no insurance..." .
In such a society you do not have to fear for your life when you can not work.
And when i think that some people are against health-insurance  and such...i can not understand it.
Some things from the left view can be seen as wrong. But many things from the right are right cruel.
Nobody should have to fear for his future in a perfect society.
I see more the problem of capitalism here then communism .

Do you think that the poor people from the other country's are to blame
-who have many other problems beside producing art by buying dvd tutorials from other country's with credit cards -
or the relative rich ones who can download the dvd's for free now ?
And if you think that only the socialists from the rich country's are downloading for free with politic thoughts in their mind ,
i think you should look a little closer , TheBadger.

This is not such an easy problem as you think

And :
Quote from: TheBadger on September 20, 2011, 04:38:02 AM
... I say fuck society, to many people on this planet anyway, and most of them are communists or at least socialists.
Mass producers of worthless junk, and meaningless culture. Pricks.
Man I hate Modernism.

And this is one of the problem.
Egoist people who only think for his self  ! Many users here are learning from contributors of files for free.
If it was for the capitalist approach only , you would not get anything free here on this forum .
So fuck this society too ? ? ?  Sad  :(

As to the problem  directly i should say that this is one of the things i argue with one of my left viewed friends .
They forget sometimes this kind of real life human problems  and are more on the theoretic side of the problems.
But i can not see an easy solution. Think of a big store (emporium?) who opens and destroys some lives of the people in the nearby.
I hate when humans suffer. And when you make a distinction in what he believes where he lives etc. This is really inhumane .

rcallicotte

The bottom line, regardless of the philosophical high towers - This man worked hard and if people want what he has done, they should pay for it.  It's an extremely inexpensive deal and the definite benefit - you will draw much better and from your mind without need for a reference.  The deal was already incredible, before people decided to steal it.

The problem we're dealing with is wicked thieves, some of which probably live in Communist countries who are intentionally trying to take down middle class workers like Riven.  To hell with them.  Support Riven and people like him.

On a side note - if everything is free, then what?  What will evil people then do to get what they want - eat your children, if you don't do as they please? 
So this is Disney World.  Can we live here?

Kadri


Calico ....forget it! You have not read what i wrote or simply i didn't express myself clearly.
You have a very different view of the world...And you don't want to see the other side.

Before bringing imaginary accusations for other country's,
change your own laws-system and bring real social-health-insurance to your own country.

This man should really get what he deserves. I hope at least you understand that i want this too,do you Calico?

But man what is this ?

Quote from: calico on September 20, 2011, 10:02:27 AM
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On a side note - if everything is free, then what?  What will evil people then do to get what they want - eat your children, if you don't do as they please?  

Are you OK Calico?
I think you use this as a positive term:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

I know whatever i say will not change your viewpoint ... So i will not further write here.
But a world in peace looks really more and more like an Utopia so much i read posts like these!

rcallicotte

@Kadri - There will be no Utopia...not sure how you think it's possible; not when men choose to do evil like they are to Riven.  He worked hard.  He made a good opportunity for us to learn.  People are ruining him.  That happened because people chose to do evil; not because they are Communist or Hindu or McCarthy or stupid or smart.  They are choosing to steal from him...who cares why.

Another reason to check off in my reasoning capabilities why I don't believe all Human Kind will be.

Anyway, if people can help Riven by being kind, cool.  Another reason to pay for his training is to learn and become a better artist so you too can taste what it's like for others to steal your work.  Otherwise, there's nothing to see here... 

And I'm just joking about getting your work stolen.  Just making a point - without a clear way to avoid this, artists will lose their ability to have an actual real voice and will, especially, not be able to make a living by honing a craft.

I hope someone will notice.  His teaching is actually worth the time.
So this is Disney World.  Can we live here?

TheBadger

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@Kardi, Please don't take offense to my retort, I like you and respect your thoughts.

First of all, do not think that because I do not agree, that, therefore I do not understand. I understand well. I know the difference between socialism and communism, and both are inherently evil. This does not mean that I think that it is wrong to help people, or that anyone should be left to suffer. Giving in love is charity, charity is love. Sharing on this site is not socialism, it is friendship. Socialism is not charity, it is sanctioned theft, at the bad end of a gun. And I see no difference between a capitalist robber baron and a socialist state, morally. So do not think that because I reject socialism that I believe capitalism is some how a beautiful thing, capitalism is simply less evil.

You also imply that because I do not except "leftist" thinking, that therefore I must side with the far right, you then are saying that I am a fascist. I am not! I despise Post-modernism as much as modernism, they are both wicked, and I despise the children of the two; communism and fascism, among other offspring.  Though if I were forced to choose between modernism and post-mod, I would choose post. My beliefs allow me to choose the lesser of two evils.

Also, this forum is not a society, it is a community. And I have not said fuck this community. But I should not have said fuck at all, and left the impression that I am un-feeling for the poor. I am poor. I am an artist by training (that means I have lots of debt) in a global recession (that means I am very poor). But better to be poor than my neighbors slave, or my governments serf. I am free! And there is no evil in this at all.

There is no evil in saving ones own family before he saves or helps his neighbor. What Man, when he wakes to see both his home and his neighbors home are on fire, rushes out to save his neighbors family before he saves his own? There is no evil in looking out for your self. But there is much love in willingly sacrificing ones self for others. "For Love hath no one greater than he who giveth his life for his brother". Sacrifice your self first, than you can teach me. But remember if you sacrifice someone else, in your place, for your cause, this is not love, this is murder.

In the meantime I am sorry I said that "there are to many people", and fuck 'em. I should not post anything anyplace when is it late and I am tired and angry. I am sorry for that, but for nothing else. Everything else I said is the Truth.

It has been eaten.

Seth

5 hours of training for only 90 Dollars ?
and people keep stealing that ???

c'mon guys, cut the communism Vs Capitalism stuff...
that is only something about stealing and piracy, not politics.
open your eyes, there was (is) as much thieves in communism than in capitalism.

Oh, and Utopia, by definition doesn't and will never exists :)

people even steal files from NWDA... 5 Euros files... hehehe me say they just are greedy peeps...

I just don't see his point in the 20+ Bible quotes at the end of his message...

cyphyr

Agreed Frank, the bible bashing bit did somewhat put me off! :)
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rcallicotte

I didn't get the verses at the end.  But, his training gave me hope.  I did all of it after work every day for...a while.   ;D  But, it was worth it.  It helped me grasp 3D character creation better as well.
So this is Disney World.  Can we live here?