Started by AP, February 02, 2012, 01:53:28 am
QuoteHowever, those people in the departments you mention do not have neo-pegan religions forming around them the way the green movement does.
QuoteAlso, those department and industries were not the point of this thread.
QuoteI am sorry that my sharing my feelings on this subject brought you to anger.
QuoteYet the movements you seem to support and their public faces actively seek the power necessary to directly effect my life and my liberty, even my very ability to work and prosper.
QuoteThe environmental movement is a neo-pagan religion? Can you even define the "environmental movement"? This is reminiscent of the Cornwall Alliance's declaration that the "environmental movement" is the literal Biblical antichrist (Green Dragon), otherwise known as batshittery amongst polite circles.
QuoteQuoteAlso, those department and industries were not the point of this thread.Like China, genocide, Al Gore? Nature with a capital 'N', by the way, is a catch all term for the physical and natural universe, hence the most highly respected scientific journal in the world is called (you guessed it) Nature. "The nature of nature" doesn't exactly read right.
QuoteQuoteI am sorry that my sharing my feelings on this subject brought you to anger.Straw man fallacy. I might have been rubbing my eyes in disbelief at your attack on the "environmental movement", though.
QuoteQuoteYet the movements you seem to support and their public faces actively seek the power necessary to directly effect my life and my liberty, even my very ability to work and prosper.Does Alex Epstein point out that the coal industry costs the US taxpayers up to just under half a trillion dollars in external costs each year (cleanup, healthcare, etc)? Thought not. How does uncritically supporting a shill for a US Chamber of Commerce astroturfing front group, who cleverly appeals to a section of the population's confirmation biases and propagandises for industries that wilfully pollute their neighbors' properties and health without permission while they rent-seek through socialising their external costs, tie in with your (seemingly) libertarian values?
Quote from: TheBadger on March 21, 2012, 10:39:14 amWhere did I say that, I think, the environmental movement is a neo-pagan religion? No place.
Quote from: JimB on April 03, 2012, 06:23:22 pmQuote from: TheBadger on March 21, 2012, 10:39:14 amWhere did I say that, I think, the environmental movement is a neo-pagan religion? No place.I must have imagined the specific words "neo-pagan" in your pre-edited comment. Abject apologies.
QuoteAnd I find the effort of environmental groups, including groups within the U.N to make plant and animal live equal to that of a human life, deeply disturbing. Horrific.
QuoteThe earth is not alive. There is no mother of nature...
QuoteMaking the earth movement and the environmental movement indistinguishable in terms of activism and probably, in the long run, with policy too.
Quote from: TheBadger on April 04, 2012, 01:40:01 pmYes I understand the value of non human life on earth, but a single animal is not equal to a single human. And I should not have to list examples proving there are a lot of people who believe in equality between all life forms. Its pretty out in the open.
Quote from: TheBadger on April 04, 2012, 01:40:01 pmIf Gaia is a valid scientific hypothesis, so is Star Wars
QuoteI think you're confusing the animal liberationists with environmentalists.
Quote from: calico on March 20, 2012, 11:22:35 amThe enemy isn't someone who cares about our environment - plain and simple.
Quote from: JimB on April 10, 2012, 01:30:05 pmAl Gore did not invent global warming.
QuoteIn the early 1970's we were threatened by Gore's spiritual predecessors that today we would be entering a new Ice Age
Quote from: gregsandor on April 10, 2012, 01:54:28 pmWithout a changing climate life on Earth would die.
Quote from: JimB on April 11, 2012, 01:48:15 amAh, a painting of the Thames when it was wider and flowed much more slowly, ergo.... The Thames has frozen over roughly 14 times in over 1000 years. Not such a big deal.