Thats not what I was saying. I was saying adding more mess to a mess, just makes a bigger mess.
Why do you think new parties would be more honest? politics is politics. It would just be liars by a new name.
The two parties have to be fixed before anything else is added. And if we fix them, then their wont be much of a need for more big parties.
I know historically in the US 3rd parties manage to survive only as long as the problem they formed to solve lingers. Once the issue/problem is resolved they fall away on their own. Or they are told no by the people and they fall away.
Traditionally what happens is if a 3rd voice gains majority appeal (with-in) one of the parties, than that voice will come to dominate the party, it effectively means our two party system is unlimited. But the problem is it can happen very slowly. Much slower than the people with a issue often like. But in the last 20 years it has been happing faster and faster.
Progressivism and libertarianism are an example, then there is the green movement just to name 3. All of which are finding their place in the parties. They are called a
caucus here.
I am aware of your love for the EU Martin, and over all dislike of the US, or at least the US government (some of that dislike i share right now). But all I can tell you is there are not many people in the US who want to be like Europe. Somethings some people want, and try to do, like one nation or another in Europe.
But no one really wants us to change to be more like Any country in the EU.
There are 300 million people here, and most of them came from Europe. How many try to get back? Not many. Yet we still take in a large number of Europeans every year despite our current political and economic mess. I think that says a lot.
The region I live in is mostly people of German, norwegian and Scandinavian decent. And they are rather happy not returning to the mother lands
The solution to Americas problem are not in following Europe, of that I am sure. And I am also sure if the American people can force a fix to our current problems, we will be back on top in no time.
One way or another we will have to face all of the issues in this conversation and all the others, here in the US.
The trick is fixing things without bloodshed or chaos. But who knows? Bloodshed may happen.
Our system is fine, the problem is the people running it. And that I believe can be fixed. However, Europe's problems are another story. You have all of the parties you could ever have room for, and there is still tons of unhappiness and injustice, poverty, violence and general distrust of those governments. which is why so many still come here.
Granted its a smaller number than the 50-70s. But still a lot of people.
I except your critique of the American government (even the American people a bit), but your pride for the EU perplexes me.
*Edit
when I said enemies in my last post. I meant anyone trying to undermine/take away my liberty. Or any political leader who lies to me. I view those people as more dangerous than Al Qaeda. So yes, my enemies.
And no, there is no grey area. I don't care what peoples reasons are for wanting to take away liberty.