Terragen 3 Loading behaviour

[PeterParker]

Have set up my machine with a formated clean Windows Version and now all Errors are gone!

Thank you.

Peter

[Oshyan]

Good to know, so I guess it was a fundamental system problem of some kind. But I wonder what still... Anyway, at least it's solved.

- Oshyan

[jo]

Hi,

Good to know, so I guess it was a fundamental system problem of some kind. But I wonder what still... Anyway, at least it's solved.

Well, the other alternative is that on the new machine there is no Library so it's not being loaded. My next suggestion was going to be to delete the Library database and see what happened.

Regards,

Jo

[PeterParker]

Hi Jo, i can tell you.
Whether i´ve loaded it via load button or loaded it from the library it was the same problem.
Takes a huge amount of time to load. Strange to say but all other programs went fine excerpt Terragen.

Best Regards

Peter

Hi,

Good to know, so I guess it was a fundamental system problem of some kind. But I wonder what still... Anyway, at least it's solved.

Well, the other alternative is that on the new machine there is no Library so it's not being loaded. My next suggestion was going to be to delete the Library database and see what happened.

Regards,

Jo

[jo]

Hi Peter,

There are two parts to the Library. There is the Library database and the Library window. The Library database needs to be loaded the first time it is needed. The Library window is kind of like the user interface for the Library database, but it isn't the "whole Library". There is also a lot of book keeping and such which goes on behind the scenes with the Library database. For example when you load an object via the Load button and if you have the preference to automatically add objects to the Library turned on then TG needs to load the Library database to do some things with it.

Yossam was describing a situation where he had delays the first time he did something like load an object but no delays after that. This is almost certainly because the Library database is being loaded. Now I can't say that I've noticed the Library database takes a particularly long time to load, even with all the Xfrog plants I have and a bunch of other stuff in it. For some reason it seems to be slow on some people's computers and I don't know why that is. However it does appear to be something which only happens once per session. That doesn't seem like a big problem to me, although it would be better if it was quicker.

It seems like you might be seeing the same thing. It's not very clear but it seems to me you were also having the delay only when the first object was loaded. Is this correct?

I was going to suggest deleting the Library database because that's what's taking the time to load. If you delete it then it will be empty. If you turn off all those preferences you mentioned then TG won't be adding stuff to it automatically. If the Library database is deleted and you no longer see the delays loading objects etc. then we'll know for sure it was because of the Library database being loaded. This is what's happened with your newly formatted machine (no Library database), although it wasn't necessary to go to all that trouble just to check it out.

Regards,

Jo

[PeterParker]

Hi Jo,

sorry, but my english is not that good to understand what you mean :-/
As far as i remember i had that issue only once as you have described but i dont understand the differences between the two
types of Library. I´ve tried several ways to avoid this problem but nothing went fine.
One thing was to add no Library and just use the load button via Terragen. I´ve just loaded a small file nothing special
and the loading time was also bad. Takes about 45 seconds. I´ve then loaded another file also via the load button and it worked.
Where is the Library which you have mentioned?

Regards from germany

Peter

[Oshyan]

Try the following steps:

Go to Edit (menu) then Preferences
Go to Library (left side)
Uncheck all options under "Automatically add these assets to the library"
Uncheck "Add assets to the library when saved"
Click Delete Library Database (bottom-right)
Click OK to save Preferences

Then try loading a file/object again and see if you have the same slow-down.

- Oshyan

[bobbystahr]

Try the following steps:

Go to Edit (menu) then Preferences
Go to Library (left side)
Uncheck all options under "Automatically add these assets to the library"
Uncheck "Add assets to the library when saved"
Click Delete Library Database (bottom-right)
Click OK to save Preferences

Then try loading a file/object again and see if you have the same slow-down.

- Oshyan

I just tried this and my load time went way down, d'oh moment for me as it was so obvious...thanks Oshyan

[Oshyan]

Thanks for the update Bobby, now to figure out why it's so slow for you! You may have given us details of this before, but can you tell us about your system specs? CPU, RAM, hard drive (if you know details), operating system. Also whether you have a realtime antivirus scanner (this could actually be responsible if it's scanning the Library file when Terragen loads it and delaying until it's finished).

- Oshyan

[bobbystahr]

Thanks for the update Bobby, now to figure out why it's so slow for you! You may have given us details of this before, but can you tell us about your system specs? CPU, RAM, hard drive (if you know details), operating system. Also whether you have a realtime antivirus scanner (this could actually be responsible if it's scanning the Library file when Terragen loads it and delaying until it's finished).

- Oshyan

I sorta know why now Oshyan...I had a friend help me out some time back with a horrid infection which ultimately required a re-install of Win7. I thought i saw a hiccup in the install but he paid it no mind and I've been using that install. I recently tried to install Imagine3D and it wouldn't as a dll was missing.(Ltfil10n.dll Not Found) To reacquire this dll will mean a new install so I'm waiting till I have some free computer time...hopefully soon as Imagine is my modeling software and I've retirement projects galore I'd like to get to, hee hee hee

[Oshyan]

Thanks Bobby, I can't see any reason that library load behavior should be slow on that config. Hopefully we can find some commonality in these issues at some point...

- Oshyan

[bobbystahr]

It'll be post re install for me but will post results.

[PeterParker]

Try the following steps:

Go to Edit (menu) then Preferences
Go to Library (left side)
Uncheck all options under "Automatically add these assets to the library"
Uncheck "Add assets to the library when saved"
Click Delete Library Database (bottom-right)
Click OK to save Preferences

Then try loading a file/object again and see if you have the same slow-down.

- Oshyan

Hi Oshyan,

thanks a lot for your answer. Would be fine to do that steps back in the days where i had this issue
After reinstalling the machine i´ve no further problems with Terragen and that´s fine for me.
Maybe the tips help Bobbystahr out of his loading behaviour with Terragen.
Thank you so much for your support Oshyan, i appreciate this a lot

Best regards

Peter

[PeterParker]

Try the following steps:

Go to Edit (menu) then Preferences
Go to Library (left side)
Uncheck all options under "Automatically add these assets to the library"
Uncheck "Add assets to the library when saved"
Click Delete Library Database (bottom-right)
Click OK to save Preferences

Then try loading a file/object again and see if you have the same slow-down.

- Oshyan

Hi Oshyan,

thanks a lot for your answer. Would be fine to do that steps back in the days where i had this issue
After reinstalling the machine i´ve no further problems with Terragen and that´s fine for me.
Maybe the tips help Bobbystahr out of his loading behaviour with Terragen.
Thank you so much for your support Oshyan, i appreciate this a lot

Best regards

Peter

The loading behaviour is back! After updated all 215 Windows-Updates!
I´ve tried your solution and when i delete the library i can load the scenes via load menue in no time but when i reinstall the library
the issue cccurs again. I think one of the Microshit updates causes this problem

[jo]

Hi Peter,

What do you mean "when i reinstall the library"? Do you mean when you start to add items to the Library again? How many items do you have in your Library roughly?

Are all the files that are referenced by the Library on hard drives that are in your machine? Are any of them stored on a network drive or on some sort of cloud/internet storage?

Regards,

Jo