The Internet Is F-ked"

Started by TheBadger, December 04, 2014, 07:06:12 AM

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TheBadger

http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/25/5431382/the-internet-is-fucked

So people in the UK pay as little as $2.50 for internet?
And people in South Korea get 300mbps on their phones? I don't even get that at home. Ever. At any price.

Im not kidding when I say this. I will sing with joy if someone sets DC on fire. I mean literally burn it to the ground. (for this and so so so so so so many other reasons)

What a bunch of losers really. Never mind all that corrupt or conspiracy stuff, its all crap. It makes people sound stupid when they give the politicians the benefit of the "their corupt" story. The truth is, their just dumb losers. All of em.

Sad, pathetic, imbeciles. All of them.

Ther is no hope.

Give up.

Let go.

Burn it.

Losers.
It has been eaten.

Hetzen

Are you regretting not taking the blue pill? :D

PabloMack

#2
There are some redeeming graces to come out of all of this. When you go to Indonesia or Vietnam, they aren't interested in stealing your camera because everyone already has one in their cell phone. Before the Internet, you used to have to pay $10 a minute (mostly in taxes) for long distance calls back home when you were in foreign countries. It's the cost of progress and we're paying for it. We pay for it in the cost of our services so that foreigners don't rob us when we visit them.

Upon Infinity

Don't put the U.K. on some kind of an altar.  They have to pay an annual license fee just to own a T.V. in their home.  The T.V. gestapo go door-to-door demanding entry into your house just to check to see if you own one.  And if you do, they shake you down for money.

McNistor

I live in Romania and I get 100mbps for roughly $10/month. U mad?!  ;D

On a more serious note, holding the local politicians accountable is the first step in fixing problems that affect societies. Problem with that though is that the smacking they get from the people they represent in those communities gets diluted as it travels up the power ladder and by the time it reaches where it needs to reach the most, it will be felt more like a tickle at best.
Oh and corruption. Did I mention that? That's what I should have probably started with.

AP

#5
This is why Monopolies should not exist but Governments allow this.

We only have one ISP in our area because of regulations and so. This is all we have and if the ISP gives out bad service, too bad this is all you have and no other choice. Lack of a true free-market and competition.

Oshyan

And yet the UK's BBC produces some of the finest TV in the world, from documentaries to series' to news...

Also, that article was written in February. Yes, the Internet is under major threat from commercial forces. But the US president did just recently announce support for net neutrality. Sadly the FCC chairman is some kind of raging a-hole and is saying he's not going to listen to the president, but hopefully that nonsense stops at some point. Maybe the president can just un-appoint him and put someone sensible in there. :D

- Oshyan

AP

Not sure as to how the BBC is ran. Lot's of good content, no doubts there. My point was if we had a real free market that had less government regulations we could have more competition, more choices of ISP providers as it would be easier to create and run an ISP in any given locality. I have no choice, if I wanted to quit my ISP, I would have to move to another location in order to have another choice to switch over. That is bad regulation and serious lack of choices from the consumer.

My fear is the Government weighs over time in and might make the internet a public utility like water, that opens up possibly taxing it, regulating it more and all sorts of concerns I have. Sure, the commercial forces are an issue but that is corporatism for you and again the Government allows it. A company can go to a politician/s, get some favors and use political powers to gain an advantage over competitors. This should be common knowledge. This is what limits choices in the market place in what should be a free-market but what we have is a slew of monopolies. 

Kadri


Chris in a world like you want Intel would have bought AMD since many years and the CPU prices would be sky high.

Upon Infinity

Quote from: Kadri on December 05, 2014, 08:10:42 AM

Chris in a world like you want Intel would have bought AMD since many years and the CPU prices would be sky high.

Higher prices attract more supply (competition).  Free markets are self-correcting, if and when they are allowed to work.  Monopolies only exist by government decree (East India Trading Company, Federal Reserve, Halliburton during the Iraq War, etc.)

Kadri


If you say so good. You still sound mostly like good candidates for corporate sale tactics that wants all the freedom to f...ck people ;)

zaxxon


Even though Obama has taken a position for 'Net Neutrality', it remains far from certain how the guy really feels and what is actually in the works. The media monster Comcast seems to have a 'little' influence here:       http://deadline.com/2013/08/brian-roberts-joins-president-for-golf-563981/

Comcast has secured a position of privilege and power unprecedented in American media history, I'm guessing Obama's going to let that 'tail wag the dog'.

TheBadger

^^ Agree. He can't be trusted on this. Also, he wants to tax our use of the net. And I don't see how giving the FCC authority over the net is a good idea.
I want to take power away form giant institutions, not divide it between them. Neutrality should not cost us anything!

The net is ours! If the government(s) and the corporations don't like that, we should burn their houses down. Literally. We don't need them at all.

the government should not be allowed to regulate the net, or tax it in any form! And there is no reason why the net needs to be a utility in order to make it work like it does in South Korea. The problem is government supported monopolies not a lack of government involvement.
It has been eaten.

AP

Quote from: Kadri on December 05, 2014, 11:02:53 AM

If you say so good. You still sound mostly like good candidates for corporate sale tactics that wants all the freedom to f...ck people ;)

This is why I want a real free market. If company A screws me then I can go to company B who runs a better business then company A and company A looses my trust. Do all large companies want to screw people for profits, nope. As if profits are a bad thing. There is a serious lack of understanding how businesses work. It is more complicated them most people seem to understand. If I do not profit, I can not pay my overhead, my employees, my supplies, my repairs, my R&D, there are potential investors who may like my company and my want to invest in it, supporting it... there is so much more. Company A may have the freedom to screw me but I have the freedom to say goodbye and take my money elsewhere. In our current state my choices are very limited. Even in a free market there are going to be bad guys but there at least would be no government protection for the bad company nor would my choices be limited to that one bad company. Less bad guys because more companies would thrive. Less Walmarts over taking Mom and Pop Businesses.

AP

Quote from: TheBadger on December 05, 2014, 01:10:36 PM
^^ Agree. He can't be trusted on this. Also, he wants to tax our use of the net. And I don't see how giving the FCC authority over the net is a good idea.
I want to take power away form giant institutions, not divide it between them. Neutrality should not cost us anything!

The net is ours! If the government(s) and the corporations don't like that, we should burn their houses down. Literally. We don't need them at all.

the government should not be allowed to regulate the net, or tax it in any form! And there is no reason why the net needs to be a utility in order to make it work like it does in South Korea. The problem is government supported monopolies not a lack of government involvement.

I understand your frustration but I am not a violent person nor would I want to destroy property. Awareness is the key and it is happening, slowly but surely. It might take a few decades though.