The Bike

[Kadri]

What you say about "Smoothing" looks more like subdividing (it already looks sufficiently subdivided from what i can see) and because of the structure it gets worse.
I would try with the original in Terragen first and see how it looks.
If you did this and the polygons looked bad, the easiest way is to smooth (not subdividing) it in Poseray and see how it looks again.

[DocCharly65]

It seems a bit more complicated, Kadri
As I understand, there are 3 ways subdividing and 2 of them are also used for smoothing in Wings3D.

But I am not sure and still only use the program for some little repairs. I also gave Poseray a chance but I  did not understand anything there... even didn't get any kind of object loaded... 

Just my intellectual limits, I guess
I have learned now I think 2% Terragen after 1 year, and 0.001% Wings3D...
Just too much input... 

But some good news here:
I've cut some of the latest developments together and the film should be on-line on youtube in 1 - 2 hours.

I'll open an animation post when upload and conversion is finished...

[Kadri]

LOL!

If you want upload the file to me.I have time to have a look at it.
If you don't want or can't you can trow only the tire or the disk even

[DocCharly65]

 

Thanks Kadri... I guess you will get good chances to be mentioned in the movie credits in 2020

Upload will not work (80MB), but I will look for the link where I downloaded it... one second...
... another second - I'll find it!...

Yepp - here it is...
http://tf3dm.com/3d-model/yamaha-34896.html

I have seen the identical bike in some archives.  I am not sure who is the original artist...
This one seems to be the same ( perhaps I even tried this one):
http://tf3dm.com/3d-model/yamaha-xvs-1100-61103.html

And I am curious if you see in this model also many many wrong normals...

Hey - 10 minutes until youtube upload is finished ... perhaps 10-20 more minutes converting...

[Kadri]

[Kadri]

Doc i tried to have a look at the file. In Poseray and Lightwave guess which part did not show up at all?
Yes the front tire.Doh!

Then i used an online converter to export as an OBJ file. The bike showed up in Terragen and Lightwave without problem.
Actually there was a part completely missing and there might be some other problematic parts but it looks more like a converting problem.

[Kadri]

Look for yourself Doc.

[DocCharly65]

Hey you're good, man
realy very good!

[DocCharly65]

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but I am too 

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But it was really hard work.
I have examined some models and found one with "good" brake disks.
Also it needed some research to find a converter that didn't destroy them.

Then I loaded the bike-objects (I used in TG) into Wings3D and exchanged the discs.

[Cocateho]

Nice addition!

[Kadri]

Yes that is it

[Kadri]

Converting is problematic sometimes.What did you use by the way?
Mine was the same as i used for WASasquatch's thread lately:
http://www.greentoken.de/onlineconv/

[DocCharly65]

Most times I use the same converter (if I cannot convert on my own with Wings3D)
Helpful app!

In this case I tried meshconvert.com
But you can't use it for big models - it's limited to 15mb upload.

I had good luck that my "brake-disk-repair-yamaha-file" was smaller.

[Kadri]

Thanks.

[j meyer]

Nils,looking at your Wings screenies it seems that your conversion process
destroyed all of the creasings of the original model,if there were any at all.
It's very common that certain formats can't be converted without loss.
Especially creasing.(In Wings creasing=hard edges)
And just subdividing (smoothing) doesn't do anything good to most models.

As for the tyre flattening PM or email me and I'll try to guide you through
that process in Wings,only if you want of course.