Why Apple Passed Microsoft in Market Capitalization

Started by Kadri, May 28, 2010, 12:53:12 AM

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latego

Also Scientology is wildly successful... the truth is that Mac users talk and behave like cult members, that Macs are status symbols (like 600-900$ shoes for women) and people value their freedom 0 (the worst MS did was to make their programs and programs developed with their tools be better integrated with Windows, they never even dreamt of forcing people to buy some programs or developers to use certain tools).

Bye... (add a disgusted shaking head icon).

PG

I don't really see why it's supposed to be such a big news story, ok so their company is more expensive. That's what it boils down to, their products aren't any better quality, they still haven't made a real dent in Microsoft's monolithic market share and they're fanboys are still snobby little bitches. I'll laugh when google's OS comes out because I reckon it'll eat into Apple's market share rather than Microsoft's.
People buy apple because it's not microsoft or because they know nothing about computers and are told it's good. But the stupid price tag and software incompatibility (still) won't be so attractive when there's a commercial non-microsoft OS that runs on normal, cheap hardware.
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Kadri

Quote from: PG on May 28, 2010, 05:19:52 AM
I don't really see why it's supposed to be such a big news story, ok so their company is more expensive. That's what it boils down to, their products aren't any better quality, they still haven't made a real dent in Microsoft's monolithic market share and they're fanboys are still snobby little bitches. I'll laugh when google's OS comes out because I reckon it'll eat into Apple's market share rather than Microsoft's.
People buy apple because it's not microsoft or because they know nothing about computers and are told it's good. But the stupid price tag and software incompatibility (still) won't be so attractive when there's a commercial non-microsoft OS that runs on normal, cheap hardware.

PG please read your comments ones more. How do you thing it will look from the Apple side ?  :)
You may be right maybe. But the wording is like a PC fanboy . This is mostly the problem from either side .
I am a PC user for your knowledge. But i try to stay objective so far i can.
But the ones small Apple and the position it now is , is for me a news story   ;)

Seth

No videos, no porn, no flash website, 500 to 800 €... I agree, it is a lot of noise for something not so revolutionary ! buy it if you want to be a fashion boy or to show your social statut, otherwise, wait for a true tablet (read not Mac) ^^

Kadri

Quote from: Seth on May 28, 2010, 06:11:06 AM
No videos, no porn, no flash website, 500 to 800 €... I agree, it is a lot of noise for something not so revolutionary ! buy it if you want to be a fashion boy or to show your social statut, otherwise, wait for a true tablet (read not Mac) ^^

You are a strange guy in a good way Seth  ;D

"Flash website"  i hate flash web sites by the way !
But the way  Apple handles this flash thing is monopolistic of course , and not good for their image !

Nothing to add much to the other things you said Seth (Edit : Oops  "buy it if you want to be a fashion boy or to show your social statut, otherwise, wait for a true tablet (read not Mac) " excluded ) ;D


FrankB

I've got one. Reading the replies here, I'm not sure if I can assume that you have made your own experiences?
Well, I did. For me it's true: it just works and is fantastically easy to use. So what's the deal?

I don't like generalization. Like everyone owning a mac is a "fanboy" or "want to show social status", that's complete bullshit (forgive me, but it is).
It's just a tool. For me it works well. Never came across a situation that my macbook wasn't able to deal with, yet. Battery runs forever, display is just great, comes with a lot of out of the box tools and applications, makes *no* noise, OSX is fun... So what now?

Frank

PG

Well I don't think every mac owner is a fanboy, nor do I think macs are particularly bad. They're fit for a particular purpose just like PCs. The thing I don't like about them and what would turn someone into a fanboy is when they blindly preach that macs are mystical creations of wonder that have the answer to all life's woes and cannot be faulted. PCs have faults, macs have faults. PCs are good for certain things, macs are good for certain things.
So I wouldn't consider myself as a PC fanboy either, because windows is pretty shit as well. I just prefer the extensibility of it.
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Seth

I disagree Frank, it is maybe a tool for you but for the big majority of people it's just an expensive gizmo to show off with pride :) do you really think that the first million customers are like you, using it as a tool ? look at the ipod, honestly, do you think it has a better sound than a sony mp3 ? what the point to have a iphone when you don't have a job (see it many times in Paris). to me, marketing make people think they need a ipad (what shitty name)... don't get me wrong dude, you know me, i am geek enough to, as a lot of peeps, want to own one because it is a nice toy, but i truely think it is a lot of noise for something that doesnt deserve it. oh and i put my hand on it yesterday (thanks to a friend of mine).     ps : and as you know me, you understood that my first post is not totally my opinion. except that i really hate not to be able to watch a lot of videos. and no webcam on this so expensive toy is a shame ! not mentioning the moralist position of steve jobs on porn... (nothing personal ^^)

MGebhart

"snobby little bitches"

Wait, I resemble that remark. :)
Marc Gebhart

Kadri


When the conversations begin with such remarks it is always doomed from the beginning ,
this is one of the most serious problems about this mac vs. pc thing.
And this wasn't my intention at all at the beginning ... !

Please guys :(

Walli

lets wait how it turns out, when people start to notice that apple is as evil as microsoft or even worse ;-)

But its interesting to see that despite the fact that mac/osx is a niche and also iPhone is a niche, they do earn so much money. Is it the iPod?

Seth

passion... :)
I don't understand why we should be PC Vs Mac...
I never owned a Mac so I found it very difficult to use but... well, it is just a matter of taste isn't it ?

Zairyn Arsyn

i could care less about the article.

i agree with both PG & FrankB on the points in their posts, my first computer was a 486, then in 2002 i switched to macs - liked it at first, then started to like it less & less over time...
i had one of those little Flat Panel iMac's, the only thing you could really upgrade on it was the ram. :\
sure, its easier to use, simple, almost completely immune to viruses but, still there are a few things that bother me about Apple/Macs..

no DirectX support (good for games & most 3d programs), higher prices, less ATi / Nvidia graphics cards for macs, macs can use Windows OS, but PC users cant properly install OSX, then there's the lack of upgrades for most of their computers...   

for me, a custom built PC was the way to go.

i don't mind using macs, but i wouldn't want to buy one of their computers for personal use, mainly cause of the cost.
i also have a ipod btw.
i still have the 486, its in my closet.
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Kadri

Guys am i blind ? Is there a place where it says that Mac is better then Pc or the other way around?
I think some of you are not reading what it says there , but what you want to see !

What you discuss here and what there is are different things.