Planetside is crooked.

Started by Harvey Birdman, June 25, 2008, 12:07:00 AM

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dandelO

Well, everyone's happy!
But, does Planetside deactivate the registration of refunded products, or can this 'birdman' still fly right ahead and get his final release, when it eventually comes, using his pre-purchased licence file?
I hope not, I think that would be absolutely ridiculous and, if Harvey hasn't returned his refunded product to Matt upon reciept of his $200 reimbursement, who would look like the cheater/fraudster/theif then? Certainly not the company, huh?

Come back at me over this if you want, Mr. HB, but I couldn't really give a rat's bollocks what you think. All I've seen from your end is a little babby's puling and whining and eventually a wee-babby gets what he wants. I have kids already, this situation rings familiar.
Hopefully PS has the ability to take back their product once they've refunded monies to disgruntleds by terminating their license agreement/files, if not, I hope you have the decency to return and never use the product, that it now appears that you have stolen.

Maybe this is all pie in the sky and you had already returned your license? I don't know.
I do know, though, that it certainly doesn't look like you've amicably offered to do so to everyone reading this thread, the impression I've got from it leads me to believe that you just wanted the money back in addition to the item paid for with it.

Cake and eat it.

monks

#46
I know Oshyan fairly well having worked with him over the net for a few years now. There is NO WAY that you can justify calling him a weasel, a fraudster, a crook, a liar, etc. I know for a fact that Oshyan has helped application developers in the Community from his own pocket. He's also maintained websites for the community: not least the ME-DEM project, the Terrain Summit forums and the Textures.org; not to mention Ashundar, etc, with no expectation of renumeration. I do know that his involvement in other projects has been heavily curtailed more recently- well I figure that's because he's working so hard at Planetside.
I think JimB hit the nail on the head: Planetside should charge more for their product. That would solve a lot of problems pretty quickly.
I do think that a blog similar to the one created by Stephen Schmitt for World Machine would be a very good thing. Think of the occasional posts as patches, not code patches, but patches for community morale, sanity  ;D, etc. Not putting something in place like that was a mistake.

The way you have conducted yourself Harvey over this matter has been wildly overblown. I invested in Planetside on Day 1: Deep + Animation. I just hope you have created here your final scene for Terragen.

btw there's a bug in your avatar: "Who's the man in the the suit?"

monks

Harvey Birdman

Quote from: reck on June 26, 2008, 03:00:45 AM
Oh and Matt, maybe you should keep Harvey's email address on file, that way you can send him a "Terragen 2 final is released" email when the time comes.  :D


Yeah. I'll be holding my breath for that one.


Sayonara, suckers.

Zylot

I dunno if Calico is appeased or not, but it's good to see that alot of the recent uproar has quieted down. 

Harvey Birdman

Yeah, you can all go back to being quietly fleeced, like good little sheep.   ;)

Will

OK people nothing to see here, move along.
The world is round... so you have to use spherical projection.

gregsandor

Only discussing this:  "Planetside should charge more for their product. That would solve a lot of problems pretty quickly." 
Charging more is not the appropriate barrier to entry. 

otisnesthead

#52
It has been worth the money spent on pre-purchasing just to get involved with and watch such a wonderful group of individuals.  Everyone gets so excited!!!  Isn't it fun? 

I thought prepurchasing was a bit of a risk - anyone with any experience of software from Microsoft up knows how reliable release dates are. Anyone who has tried to write software also knows that some problems just take a lot of time to put right. I assumed the risk was factored into the price and calculated I would risk it.  It isn't a lot of money, even for you poor folks, when you think that it would just about fill a car petrol tank twice in the UK at the moment.

Calling people crooks and frauds seems to be going a tad too far even for a an avian but perhaps he has other problems. perhaps someone has objected to him using their artwork as his image or whatever you call them.  (I may have broken some terribly important piece of etiquette by saying that - if so I apologise.)

Personally I want to benefit from my investment so would prefer the developers to develop. Accusations, whingeing and all the other flak doesn't help and just puts back the day of delivery. Who knows it may be that if I am deprived for much longer my personality will change for the worse and and I might even grow wings.
 

matrix2003

Amen.  That could be the last word.  PEACE !   :D
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Blonderator

What I don't understand about all this is the guy who was whining the whole time got his money back.

However Planetside hasn't devised a way to deactivate his license key, so he's getting a free copy of Terragen 2... So now who's the crooked thief?

Enjoy your freeware Harvey!

rcallicotte

Does this mean he'll keep getting links to the new downloads?  I doubt it.  His "freeware" isn't the finished product and he would need the finished file(s).

Quote from: Blonderator on June 27, 2008, 06:27:03 PM
Enjoy your freeware Harvey!
So this is Disney World.  Can we live here?

Zylot

Truth, he can still use the current version...  which is fine by me, and any updates he won't have 'honest' access to, so when the final product is released, he'll need to pay full price.

I'm sure that's something he's well aware of and has no problem with, so as far as I'm concerned this is a dead issue.

Quote from: calico on June 27, 2008, 06:43:10 PM
Does this mean he'll keep getting links to the new downloads?  I doubt it.  His "freeware" isn't the finished product and he would need the finished file(s).

Quote from: Blonderator on June 27, 2008, 06:27:03 PM
Enjoy your freeware Harvey!

Cyber-Angel

#57
Now that Harvey has his money back, can we now call this matter closed and have this thread locked as I think that its life should not be extended beyond the point that it has been; to keep this thread open would in my view only serve to deepen divisions within the community where in fact there needs time for reflection and healing.

The longer that we disuse this issue which is in my view a mote point, the longer it will take for that process of healing to begin.

Regards to you.

Cyber-Angel  ;D     

rcallicotte

I agree.  Maybe the Planetside admins could put a lock on it to keep it from bouncing to the top. 

Sorry for the bump.
So this is Disney World.  Can we live here?

Oshyan

What's funny is that the topic only gets attention because people keep replying. ;) We've never had to lock a topic before - I'd like to think this one will die out on its own. If it gets riled up again I'll reconsider, but for now I'm going to leave it open on principle.

- Oshyan