Started by rcallicotte, August 04, 2010, 07:34:19 am
Quote from: njeneb on August 05, 2010, 02:11:39 pmAt least they don't try to convert this old pagan, as some Christians do.
Quote from: Seth on August 05, 2010, 02:18:55 pm...converted muslims are not equal to born muslims.
Quote from: cyphyr on August 05, 2010, 02:23:52 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42p2SO5wQag Can the rest of us have our planet back? Good rant by Marcus Brigstocke, sums up my feelings quite well.Richard
Quote from: njeneb on August 05, 2010, 02:11:39 pmThere are a lot of Muslims living here, Binghamton NY, now. They are good people.At least they don't try to convert this old pagan, as some Christians do.
Quote from: nikita on August 05, 2010, 08:14:11 pmAs much as I dislike religions - what you have written is just a conspiracy theory.Of course, muslims are upset when you force them to act against their religion. You'd be angry too if someone would interfere with your religion like that. That's no step in a plan for world domination - it's called freedom of religion. A freedom designed to prevent exactly the shit you are in right now.Of course, the best thing would be not to have religion in the first place but for now we have to deal with it.
Quote from: nikita on August 05, 2010, 08:14:11 pmOf course, the best thing would be not to have religion in the first place but for now we have to deal with it.
Quote from: neuspadrin on August 05, 2010, 09:57:11 pmPiggy, a lot of your opinion comes from your time in Malaysia, which is quite a different atmosphere culturally, religion, and politically. The main issue of this article is that it is happening in the USA where freedom of religion is right there in our Bill of Rights (the very first one, tied with freedom of speech). Being bias against a religion by LAW in our country is illegal. Even if someone who was Muslim came in and did horrible things.It's unfortunate these things happen anywhere in the world, but many countries out there have huge issues that happen in them based off any number of things. Malaysia's atmosphere is a lot different from that of others, and when you are born into those cultures and that's all you've ever known then it's hard to get them to change. I used to live minutes away from Malaysia in Singapore and it was completely different even though they are so close. Many Muslims I knew there were kind, helpful, caring people. Same here in the USA. And here in the US there is plenty of religious bias and horrible things Christians do based off their religion. Yet their are also plenty of nice and lovely people who are also Christian. But we really should keep to the issue of what this topic is talking about with this thread, concentrated for here in the USA as that is where it is happening. Going to a global scale of religions would just cause an explosion of any argument possible. The world is filled with horrible things.Also no offense but your links are quite biased, even just based off their domain names. I could probably find plenty of Christians doing horrible things against other religions just as easily. Or any religion doing anything bad. Hell here in the US there are plenty of school aged children who would gladly tell you they want to kill all Muslims, and their teachers WON'T correct them as they believe the same thing. Hell there are people out there who think Obama is a secret Muslim sneaking in to take over the world because of his name. Quote from: nikita on August 05, 2010, 08:14:11 pmOf course, the best thing would be not to have religion in the first place but for now we have to deal with it.This has just been in my head almost all of the reading of this thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okd3hLlvvLwI don't see this going anywhere productive guys, those who believe and those who don't will both be stubborn on issues like this, and I believe most of the members here see/understand the other side, but still will stick to theirs. Yes this issue could be seen as a huge offense to the victims and the country, but at the same time it is also a violation of the freedom of religion our country believes in while also stereotyping an entire religion as extremists based off the actions of a few. Lets keep the forum civil and move on.