Started by matrix2003, July 20, 2012, 04:38:35 pm
Quote from: Tangled-Universe on July 21, 2012, 01:19:01 pmYeah it's a shame and sad that TDKR is suffering due to this idiot. I can imagine that you feel it's not appropriate to go and see it now and especially enjoying it.The tragedy and loss of the people is far more sad of course."Only in America", we say here in The Netherlands (as well), "where you can buy weapons legally, you can expect this to happen from time to time".And as long as the citizens themselves do not see the problem of having a gun yourself at home then this will keep on happening again from time to time.Guns should be illegal at any time and shooting ranges where you can shoot for sports, should keep the guns somewhere locked away only to be used on the range.
Quote from: calico on July 21, 2012, 07:23:33 pmhttp://www.swedishwire.com/nordic/10742-survivors-of-norway-massacre-speak-of-horror- Not only in America. And don't forget the Arab world where this thing happens on a much larger and more heinous scale, only more frikken unbelievable in scope - http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/03/world/middleeast/03iraq.html or http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/24/us-russia-blast-airport-idUSTRE70N2TQ20110124So, when trying to disarm Americans, one of the few places allowed to protect ourselves from criminals, it aint gonna happen.
QuoteThe problem is why should every one get so easily such guns?
QuoteThe wise man you mention lived in a much much different period...Are we really not better than those times now?
QuoteAre all what they said right and true 200 hundred years later?
QuoteBut why should be everyone entitled to this
QuoteIf i lived at those times i would say the same as you, but now? No thanks!
QuoteIn insisting that this is your right you open the door to many armed maniacs
QuoteI am sure that you will shoot no one in your life , but they will
QuoteTheBadger you really stick to your gun
QuoteWe clearly see this in a much different way
QuoteBad times may come here but it seems your culture needs really some care
Quote from: calico on July 21, 2012, 07:23:33 pm...So, when trying to disarm Americans, one of the few places allowed to protect ourselves from criminals, it aint gonna happen....
Quote from: TheBadger on July 21, 2012, 09:30:38 pmThe right to keep and bear arms is a foundational, and fundamental right in the United States. It was made so by the people and is maintained by the people. Those who wrote the right to defend ones self against their own government or any group or individual, were among the wisest people of their time. And I have heard nothing here or any place else to make me believe that there is a better way to insure personal liberty than the right to own a fire arm.