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Harvey Birdman

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Bold political leadership!
« on: June 22, 2007, 01:02:17 PM »
Yes, it seems the urgency of climate change is finally beginning to penetrate the halls of power in Washington. In a bold, courageous move, Congress is passing legislation forcing auto makers to improve the fuel efficiency of their cars!

By 2020.

What courage! What leadership! (What leadership?)

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Offline rcallicotte

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Re: Bold political leadership!
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2007, 01:07:25 PM »
This reminds me of the bogus talk that never did anything in the 70s.  Is it really that difficult for people to foretell the future of oil dependency?  I'm pretty sure a group of 5th graders would have more sense than these greedy senators.

Why did Rome fall again?
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Re: Bold political leadership!
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2007, 01:28:26 PM »
Hmm well at least Fallout 3 will be released by then so we can all practice our wasteland survival skills. *whistles Always look on the bright side of life*


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Harvey Birdman

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Re: Bold political leadership!
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2007, 01:37:18 PM »
Until just a few months ago, the head of the Senate subcommittee (a senator from Kansas, iirc) playing the largest role in shaping climate policy still openly denied the existence of global warming. Never mind debating causes, this guy still says there's no such thing. (One of those left-wing media conspiracies, doncha know.)

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Re: Bold political leadership!
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2007, 01:43:03 PM »
I wasn't joking about the fallout thing... Grab your pipboy 3000 open the vault and face to new world!
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Re: Bold political leadership!
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2007, 01:44:27 PM »
 ;D ;D

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Re: Bold political leadership!
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2007, 04:07:46 PM »
Have you seen "Blast from the Past"?   :P
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Re: Bold political leadership!
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2007, 12:08:37 AM »
Well, and in old Europe people are getting aware that global warming is rather a calm wind against the rage of global dimming and another iceage ;D
They were even forced to stop some TV global warming "propaganda" on behalf of public intersection.

Either, both have the same cause. So keep your fuels down.

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Re: Bold political leadership!
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2007, 11:57:24 AM »
What is public intersection?


Well, and in old Europe people are getting aware that global warming is rather a calm wind against the rage of global dimming and another iceage ;D
They were even forced to stop some TV global warming "propaganda" on behalf of public intersection.

Either, both have the same cause. So keep your fuels down.
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Re: Bold political leadership!
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2007, 04:39:36 PM »
intervention?  ??? ::)

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Re: Bold political leadership!
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2007, 05:23:49 PM »
That sounds like it is the right word.  What is it that you are hearing there about public intervention?  This sounds good.  Is it like what Al Gore promotes, which is using better bulbs, changing air filters, etc.?

intervention?  ??? ::)
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Re: Bold political leadership!
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2007, 12:35:30 PM »
Well,
the following does not represent my personal believes. At the moment I am quite convinced by the points that Al Gore has.

But a bunch of people - most of all those who are or were investigating 9/11 and got discriminated by their believes are on the way to pull the global warming discussion to the benefits of lobbyists.
I am not quite in this and have no opinion about that. First I might have to get a copy of the fundament which seems to be a british documention called "The global warming swindle"
Maybe interesting at least to open the 'field of view' ,-)

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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2007, 12:56:41 PM »
This is all so very funny, I think, though I understand why anyone would want to look into what's true.  In the 60s and 70s, there was no discussion about pollution.  It was just plain wrong and companies who didn't do anything about pollution were seen as a$$holes.  I believe the same is true of them today (their still a$$holes), but the pull and declension is now toward the working "Joe and Mary" to get us to believe that what we do doesn't matter.

We're destroying our Earth and we're about to annihilate it with fighting over petty crap like oil when there's a whole universe full of wonder where we could focus our attention.  Strange how we don't think that real space travel is even possible.  Isn't it?

The wealthy are afraid they won't have "theirs" when everything starts falling apart and that's why we're seeing so many foolish political decisions - greed.

I don't mind discussing any of this, but I can't be convinced otherwise.
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Re: Bold political leadership!
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2007, 01:09:57 PM »
Well I think two or three generations from now they will look back on us with both pity and amazement on or ignorance to the big things that were happening around us. Frankly no matter what we to to the planet life will exist in some form or another but we may not be here to see that.
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Re: Bold political leadership!
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2007, 01:46:34 PM »
There is an american natives' saying:
"Our children do not inherit our world - we have borrowed their world."