Wow thanks you three!! I feel pretty optimistic about the prospect of getting the variation I would like to have now.
There is some good links here, and some of those links also go to other useful things too. I saw a dead leaf pack that I want to look into as well.
@zaxan
Yes I have a version of TPF. IT seems to actually be stable now on my platform (mostly). But I have the last upgrade before the newer edition.
That tree you posted is very nice! I will pursue that and see if I can work with it. Thank you.
Actually I believe that I may of seen it way back when, but when I looked again last night I only caught the two links I posted. So its nice of you to post that because I was sure I had seen something more, but thought it was just gone now.
please google image of olive trees. Man, they get pretty crazy looking. As tall as redwoods are, olives get twisted and fantasy looking. Pretty neat trees.
thanks again for the help on the tree, I really wanted to have some olives!
Also,
I see now that the image I posted above is tiny.
this is the image I meant to post. Look at all this detail!
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