Thanks guys, as I said it was an old one I'd abandoned when I lost my Koi folder, but I found it on a memory stick so revived it. I hadn't sussed the Colour Tab yet so I avoided it, I'm much better now and that's on the list. re: the lilies, I've used them better in a different render and they disturb the serenity this image has so they were on their way out as well. I was considering a small stone pagoda sculpture/lamp in the field some where...comments on that please. As Japanese trees are the main population, fergit which one, I was considering some spiky mountains not quite looming behind the trees?
off to bed now,3:30 A M here and i been up since 7 AMyesterday...thanks again