Vue 3D Environment Competition 2009

Started by Tangled-Universe, August 06, 2009, 05:02:15 pm

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Tangled-Universe

Hi Guys,

Probably some of you also received some mailings last weeks about this year's E-on's Environment Competition for Vue.
Below are the results of this competition.
http://www.e-onsoftware.com/showcase/competition/2009/

I think there are some nice images here. My personal favorites are:

Seychelles, by Marcus Thim -> The winner, however I find the DOF a bit unusual, but I certainly like mood and lighting, especially the left part of the image
http://www.e-onsoftware.com/showcase/competition/2009/images/29840.jpg

Mountain Lake, by Stefaninho -> just love these type of scenes, although the snow has a bit strange hue and glow.
http://www.e-onsoftware.com/showcase/competition/2009/images/30141.jpg

Grasslands, by A. C. Wolfe -> nothing much going on in regard to clouds and terrain but this just looks very natural to me, despite the slight lack of detail.
http://www.e-onsoftware.com/showcase/competition/2009/images/29633.jpg

Unfortunately we'll probably never know about scene-development of these images, as well as rendertimes and other technical aspects.
Therefore it is still difficult to compare these with TG2.
However, judging from what I see I think it is pretty clear one can create very nice images using Vue.
Still, I think TG2 offers better terrain-features (speaks for itself) but also the lighting is more convincing.
In many of the images the lighting "feels artificial".

So far my ideas about the best work Vue can offer at the moment.

Cheers,
Martin

Seth

Wild Thing by AlienSkinsStudio is great too !
nice renders there !

Henry Blewer

I downloaded the PLE version this morning. The program is sort of like Blender, thing wanted, buried in the lumber. I was unable to get a final render from it, the previews looked good. I do not understand why my contacts on Flickr who use it consistently  make sure mundane images.
First impression, Terragen 2 is better.
http://flickr.com/photos/njeneb/
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Tangled-Universe

Quote from: Seth on August 06, 2009, 07:10:29 pm
Wild Thing by AlienSkinsStudio is great too !
nice renders there !


It's from Martin J Birk and he used to do quite some TG as well back in "the 0.9x era".
Unfortunately he's not into TG anymore, perhaps because he couldn't get used to TG2, I don't know.
Anyhow, I though this image is indeed a wild thing, but not as nearly as good as some other in the gallerie.
The erosion channels are way too strongly colored to my taste and they look very flat/2D.
It also lacks scale and sense of depth.
It probably must be very difficult to do in Vue otherwise it wouldn't be rated so well by the judges.
I don't know much about Vue, so my opinion is not of great value at all ;D

Martin

Henry Blewer

I can't seem to get the thing to render. It will do previews but that's not enough. Large procedural terrains really bog down the program on my p4 HT.
http://flickr.com/photos/njeneb/
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FrankB

the one with the pure grass landscape impresses me. It's simply photo realistic.

PG

I really want to like Wasteland but everything looks like it's been post worked in. :-\ Seychelles looks really bad compared to TG2, even compared to some of the other Vue renders in there actually. I wonder who he was sleeping with. ;D

Here are the other entrants by the way, if you're too lazy to click a link :D http://www.e-onsoftware.com/showcase/competition/2009/?page=1
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Hetzen

August 07, 2009, 07:16:29 am #7 Last Edit: August 07, 2009, 07:18:58 am by Hetzen
I've just spent the last half hour stepping through the submissions, and I haven't even reached the end yet. Which just goes to show how many people use Vue compared to TG2.

What put me off Vue, back at 6.5, is the almost 'squareness' off the pixelation in the detail, it was a nightmare to stop it from flickering over a few frames. My colleague found a route around this, no thanks to Vue's input by the way, to now find they've completely changed the render settings for 7. Not meant to be a bash at Vue, just venting some of my frustrations which are echoed in their user forums btw, (being an owner of Vue we do get to see what they are talking about).

Anyway, back on topic. There's some superb work in there, I think my favourite is...

http://www.cornucopia3d.com/galleries/displayimage.php?pid=30062&fullsize=1

Not because it's technically difficult or perfect, but because it looks right for a helicopter POV circalling those climbers, and I like the most important detail for the pic that being the trail of disrupted snow from the figures. I could see this shot being used in a film.

This next one would have been my favourite, quite simply it's stunning. Absolutely beautiful. The only thing that stops it from being a photograph over a painting, is the dreadfull AA...

http://www.cornucopia3d.com/galleries/displayimage.php?pid=30115&fullsize=1


mr-miley

The most realistic and pleasing one to me is Grasslands. Its about the only one of comparable TG2 quality.

Miles
I love the smell of caffine in the morning

Tangled-Universe

I just saw another nice one:

http://www.cornucopia3d.com/galleries/displayimage.php?album=41&pos=328&pid=29604

With a bit more underlit clouds and especially without the wrecked car this could be a fantastic image.

Something which "bothers" me with the majority of images in the gallery and probably in general: why do people ruin their scenes by stuffing every corner with useless models?
There was another quite nice entry of a jungle with mist etc. Shot from high altitude. But the foreground was stuffed with 3 airplanes and I just can't help thinking "WHYYY??"...sigh

mr-miley

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mr-miley

Damn, didn't notice that render (your link) That would be really nice if it weren't for that car and as you said about the clouds.... maybe with the camera raised a few metres too.

Miles
I love the smell of caffine in the morning

Tangled-Universe

Quote from: mr-miley on August 07, 2009, 09:00:10 am
Why???? because they can!  ;D


Ghehe, yes of course :)
But seriously: don't they realize they have a nice landscape and that the models really destroy it?

Tangled-Universe

Quote from: mr-miley on August 07, 2009, 09:03:03 am
Damn, didn't notice that render (your link) That would be really nice if it weren't for that car and as you said about the clouds.... maybe with the camera raised a few metres too.

Miles


Ah you're starting to see/understand :P lol

Henry Blewer

It's the car. It does not fit. It is good otherwise.
I have been playing with Vue, and I have been able to get good results; except it will not do a full render. It's been interesting, but I am going to stick with Terragen 2.
http://flickr.com/photos/njeneb/
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