vue - Spectral Atmospheres 2

Started by reck, August 13, 2008, 01:50:09 PM

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lightning

yeah i still find terragen has a more realistic render engine than vue i don't know how the hell matt and the planet gang have done it but terragens lighting is just unmatched nothing comes close its so realistic you can see imperfections just like you do in real nature!!!

reck

#106
There are some very nice features in vue, the obvious one being the procedural vegetation with it's unique instances that vary by size, shape and even colour differences. The ability to animate the vegetation so it reacts to wind is also nice. But there were a few other things that caught my eye as well that would be nice to have in TG2 one day, such as -


The animated waves and surf round the island during the animation.


Automated Smart Scattering
Vue will automatically recognize foreign objects, and reduce the presence of EcoSystem items around them.


The single instance tool
This tool turbo-charges the process of placing individual plants, rocks or other objects in your scene. There's no more need to add a tree to the scene, move it to the desired place, then drop it to the ground. Simply point and click, and a new tree is created in that spot, and is automatically dropped to the surface. Of course, when using SolidGrowth plants, each new click generates a different instance.


Affinity and repulsion
Layers in an EcoSystem material can also influence one another. By using the affinity and repulsion parameters, it's possible to define a relationship between two layers. For instance, using affinity, trees in the first layer can affect the distribution of grass in the second layer, so that the grass grows only around the trees.


Enhanced EcoSystem Display
View vegitation by:-
Wireframe boxes
Billboards
Wireframe
Smooth shaded

All that being said when looking at the most important thing, the quality and realisation of the image, TG2 still has the lead for me. Both in terms of landscape and atmosphere/cloud rendering. So at it's core it has the better landscape rendering engine it just needs better and more advanced tools to help create these landscapes which will hopefully come in future versions.

Mohawk20

Most things you name there are about vegetation...

TG2 has a great render engine that has to be improved as much as possible in terms of render speed and efficiency.
After that, the Planetside crew have time and resources to work om procedural vegetation.

I believe Terragen will be ahead of Vue for quite a while longer, and take it's lead further ahead as soon as the vegetation is addressed.
Howgh!

rcallicotte

So this is Disney World.  Can we live here?


rcallicotte

So this is Disney World.  Can we live here?

sjefen

But if you see up in the left corner in the beginning of the movie you can see the name of the software.

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rcallicotte

LOL  Thanks Terje.  Funny about the link...


Quote from: sjefen on November 05, 2008, 10:06:17 AM
But if you see up in the left corner in the beginning of the movie you can see the name of the software.

- Terje
So this is Disney World.  Can we live here?

Bluestorm

#113
A quick render of Vue's new Spectral Clouds. Rendertime was about 10 minutes on "Superior". Not too bad, I think ;)
Still needs some tweaking, but overall, I'm quite impressed. :)


PorcupineFloyd

Ain't that TG2? Geez it looks like TG2 clouds.

PG

Still looks pretty billboardy. Plus what's with that weird patchy glow?
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Bluestorm

As I said, it needs tweaking, it's not perfect in any way. I did not change the atmosphere, the lighting or whatever. It was merely a quick test with some slightly edited presets.

And in all honesty, a billboard looks way different.

rcallicotte

Bluestorm, when you get a good cloud, would you mind posting the results?  This reminds me of TG2, when people first started experimenting, but with possibly greater latitude.   But, I'd need to see this in better lighting, etc.  If you will...
So this is Disney World.  Can we live here?

Bluestorm

Yes, I will :). I just posted this picture as a demonstration that a billowy type of cloud is now possible in Vue, too, at least generally. If you want a good looking cloud you need to invest time. I think I'll find more time on the weekend for experimenting. After all, I've had had Vue 7 for half a day now. There's much to be discovered...:)

PG

Quote from: Bluestorm on November 06, 2008, 01:24:54 PM
And in all honesty, a billboard looks way different.
Well actually, it doesn't. A billboard is very flat and has sharp edges. This is very flat and has sharp edges.
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